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I know some of you out there

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are lost.

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You don't know which way to go,

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but you know why that is?

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That's because the devil
keep you off track.

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Chaos, confusion,

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demons.

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Or whatever you want to call them,

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that's Satan.

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But a child of God,

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all things through God is possible.

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So my name is Travis Peagler

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from Dayton, Ohio, born and raised,

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the youngest outta seven kids.

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Even though Elzie's the oldest,

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he's always been like a
mysterious figure in our family.

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And also he could breakdance
really good too, like turbo.

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Then my brother, Joey,

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I always tell people he
built like Mike Tyson,

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kind of talked like Mike Tyson,

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wore his hair like Prince,

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but danced like Michael Jackson.

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My oldest sister Liz,

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she was the oldest of all the girls.

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Liz didn't think she was Black.

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She wasn't your typical
Black girl of the '80s.

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Liz thought she was Cyndi Lauper.

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She used to wear her hair
like punk rock style.

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Rhonda has always been Rhonda,

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she's blunt, always been blunt.

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She don't bite her tongue.

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Love her family, love candy.

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And then my sister, Chekala,

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Chekala was probably like
one of the funniest ones

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in the family.

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Loved to joke.

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She a rival of Kevin
Hart and Eddie Murphy.

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You know, like she was on the same level

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as far as her comedic genius.

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My brother Randy,

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he's older than me about
two and a half years.

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He was always a worker, always a hustler,

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always trying to make some money.

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Always loved cop shows.

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The East Side of Dayton was

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more of a multicultural
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that we grew up in,

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whereas the West Side of
Dayton during those times

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growing up in the early '80s
was like in what I would call

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a little bit more 'hood, 'hoodish,

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a little bit more rough.

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On the East Side of
Dayton was more relaxed

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so I got to learn to appreciate everybody

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and it really taught me that
we're all the same, man.

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It's just about,

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we really don't understand each other

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because of segregation,

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different 'hoods, Black
community, white community.

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But when you have an integrated community,

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you get to understand each other's culture

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and a respect for each other's culture.

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It's a make and break town, you know?

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We try to strive to be
successful, you know what I mean?

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We look over

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in low income, being poor,

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to think positive of
what you wanna do in life

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so you can get your,
you know, be successful,

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be able to have what other people have.

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Like I said, it was a nice community,

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but over time, fast forward
to today, it's all broke down.

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It's all deserted.

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It's like a ghost town.

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It's like a shell of itself.

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And it's just sad to see.

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If I had the chance to move,

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out of Dayton, I would
probably take that opportunity.

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Sirens all night long,

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throughout the peak of the
day and through the nights.

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I mean, you got your good spots

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like the outer side of Dayton,

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you know your suburbs
like Oakwood, Kettering,

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stuff like that.

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But Dayton itself, seriously?

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Run down.

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All I know is my
father was from Mobile, Alabama.

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I know they was dirt poor,

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him, his sister and two brothers.

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I know they moved up here
as young, young kids.

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My great-great Aunt Belle raised them.

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Randolph and I was married 16 years.

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My sister and her husband knew him

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before I even met him.

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And he used to work
with my brother-in-law.

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So we knew each other less than two weeks

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and we got married.

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He was

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fierce.

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He walked across that parking lot.

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Like I say, all the kids out here playing,

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kids would run and run away.

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"Your dad coming, your dad coming.

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Why he look so mean?"

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Where's he at?

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Right there.

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First thing we thought
about is is our work done?

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'Cause our work wasn't done, we get no,

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he getting that belt

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and the little kids run in the house too,

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start doing their work.

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Even dogs, the vicious pit bull

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would run from him.

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He walked down that, he
walked down that alley.

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Didn't nobody mess with him.

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Quiet.

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Didn't nobody say N-word
or nothing to him.

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- Nothing.
- Nothing,

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Nothing.

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Yeah, tear your ass out the frame.

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Aunt Belle told me

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that something was wrong with him

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and that she said
something would probably be

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wrong with one of his kids.

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The first couple years of our life,

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his mental stability was cool.

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I mean, there wasn't no
indication anything was wrong.

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But then he started showing signs of,

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ooh, something was
definitely wrong with him.

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And you know, he did serve in what?

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The Army?
- The Marines.

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The Marines, he was in the Marines.

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So he had that, what's that?

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That?
- PSD or what do you call it?

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- PSD.
- Back then,

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that really, you didn't talk about stuff.

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I don't even think they
knew about that back then.

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I had kids to take care of.

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I couldn't sit there and like, oh my God,

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he got a mental issue.

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Oh my God, what am I gonna do next?

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Oh dear me, what to do?

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No, no, no, no, no, no.

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We was at it cooking, cleaning,
laundry, hanging up clothes,

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taking care of kids, fixing lunch.

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You know what I'm talking about?

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He even thought at one point

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that if he spit on the concrete

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that he had powers,

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so if he spit on the concrete,

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it turned to acid.

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I
believe he was diagnosed

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with bipolar

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and like a manic depressive.

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And even schizophrenia too.

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Technically, when he was
there, he wasn't there.

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He was off on his own, in his
own little world, you know?

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'Cause his mind status.

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But you know, back then as a kid

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you don't know what mental health is

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or mental illness, you know?

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'Cause you not aware
of it, you don't know.

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One episode when he had

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a couple of the kids inside the apartment.

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And we had called the
police and everything

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and it was like a hostage situation.

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It was a time when Mom and
Dad got into an altercation.

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I rang the police.

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And he went to call the police.

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At the time I went to
the, get his cigarettes.

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I come back

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and that's the only, that's the time

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that I felt that

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he let me down in life.

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That one, that one night.

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He had flipped out.

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He had barricaded the front
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And I know it was a standoff

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with the Dayton Police Department,

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but at this time I'm like one
or two so I have no memories,

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just them telling me.

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And he had several of us

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in the room

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at gunpoint with a shotgun.

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And I was told he was making the kids

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that was able to read, whatever, read,

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recite Bible scriptures.

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And then he had

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my youngest daughter, Chekala,

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he had her hanging out the window.

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It was crazy.

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It was chaos out there, man.

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I remember everybody
was out there looking.

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I saw all the lights and
police cars out there, man.

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But I'm not sure what the
heck he flipped out about.

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I don't know if he was taking the meds

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or not taking the meds.

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I don't know, man.

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But he, something happened.

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I can't figure that part out, man.

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So he's yelling from time
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obscenities and whatever
crazy stuff he was saying.

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At some point all I know is I think Elzie,

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and I don't know if it was my cousin Mark

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or his friend Ryan,

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like went to the back
and was able to get in

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through like a downstairs window

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and moved the couches and
then they let the cops in.

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And I think at that point
they was kind of able to

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talk him down and get the kids released.

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I think that's
when they had locked him up.

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- Yeah.
- And took him to the,

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what do you call the,

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you don't call it insane
asylum anymore, I forget.

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Well back then it used to
be the psych ward, remember?

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Well, yeah.

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When he was drinking,

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whatever mental condition he had,

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if he was drinking it
made it 100 times worse.

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That's why it's not a good idea to get

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sloppy, sloppy drunk

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because you're not guarding your mind.

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And I think that's the easy way

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for them to get in,

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control you, possess you.

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One thing to help us get through

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all the things we've experienced,

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we've always believed
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and then Satan and his demons.

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That's why it's a big question in my mind.

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Mental illness and the spiritual world,

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I mean are they related
to each other or not?

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I don't know.

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That I cannot answer.

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Well another thing with
me is when you down and out

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and going through some things,

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that's when he come in.

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I don't like saying the word,

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you know what I'm talking about.

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Woo.

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That's when he come in,

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when you down

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in your weakness.
- Down.

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Yeah, at your weakness
point, that's when he come.

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You see what I'm saying?

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- Try to claim you.
- Yeah.

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Pops, I remember him, man,

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his hands was like probably two

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to two and a half of my hand size.

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He had some big old fat, meaty hands.

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I wish I had his hands, but I didn't.

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When he put 'em on, like he had a,

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he was wearing a boxing
glove, but he wasn't.

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He tried to rob a bank.

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I think he ended up doing
like 12, 14 years in prison.

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When I was 15, me and my
brother Joey went to go visit.

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And that was my first time
seeing him face to face

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because I don't think
nobody had pictures of him

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that we knew of.

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Because I think there was
some type of fire incident

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where he burnt a lot of family
photos and things like that.

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So all those memories and stuff like that

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got burnt up in a fire.

264
00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:31,523
Aunt Belle was

265
00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,153
my dad's great-great-aunt.

266
00:11:37,260 --> 00:11:41,920
I was born, I was born
not Black but white.

267
00:11:42,754 --> 00:11:43,649
My skin was all white.

268
00:11:43,650 --> 00:11:46,876
My dad thought that mom
cheated on him 'cause I was,

269
00:11:46,877 --> 00:11:49,919
wasn't of color yet.

270
00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,129
Aunt Belle, her people

271
00:11:53,130 --> 00:11:54,299
were slaves.

272
00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:55,706
And she took a liking toward me

273
00:11:55,707 --> 00:11:58,169
and then she made me her number one

274
00:11:58,170 --> 00:11:59,999
out of all the kids.

275
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,249
My brother Joey
would help care for her

276
00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:05,579
and really her husband, Uncle Henry,

277
00:12:05,580 --> 00:12:07,109
he had diabetes, he had no legs.

278
00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:08,609
And I think he was either
blind at that point

279
00:12:08,610 --> 00:12:09,929
or going blind.

280
00:12:09,930 --> 00:12:12,359
And I remember being like a
hospital bed in their bedroom.

281
00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,849
So Joey would like change the sheets.

282
00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:16,589
He would get him and you
know, put him in the tub

283
00:12:16,590 --> 00:12:17,605
and help, you know, bathe him.

284
00:12:17,606 --> 00:12:18,802
And, 'cause my Aunt Belle was

285
00:12:18,803 --> 00:12:20,853
like in her '80s already at that point.

286
00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,869
It was me always there.

287
00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:26,073
Her house was a,

288
00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,219
it was a strange house.

289
00:12:29,220 --> 00:12:30,629
Many times, he'd come there.

290
00:12:30,630 --> 00:12:32,699
- Mm-hmm.
- And he was scared.

291
00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:34,450
Rhonda would come, they'd be scared

292
00:12:35,618 --> 00:12:37,319
and you could hear him in the dark

293
00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,153
whispering

294
00:12:39,210 --> 00:12:40,360
multitude of something.

295
00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,353
The demons.

296
00:12:43,704 --> 00:12:46,139
It was just always
really something dark,

297
00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:47,909
very dark about that house.

298
00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:51,903
Just always terrified to be
alone in that house by myself.

299
00:12:54,180 --> 00:12:56,673
One night I had a TV in my room.

300
00:12:58,020 --> 00:13:00,059
That's when the news
just go on and go off.

301
00:13:00,060 --> 00:13:02,917
You know when you, back in the
day, the news used to go off.

302
00:13:03,751 --> 00:13:05,099
I see something.

303
00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:08,596
It looked like a man, but it wasn't a man,

304
00:13:08,597 --> 00:13:10,499
it was a beast.

305
00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:13,079
Walked in, he was muscle bound.

306
00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,049
He had a body of a man, head of a bull.

307
00:13:16,050 --> 00:13:19,229
And he, his back wasn't normal legs.

308
00:13:19,230 --> 00:13:20,523
Legs of a calf.

309
00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:25,379
And he looked at me and
man, chills within my body.

310
00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:26,609
It was like ice cold.

311
00:13:26,610 --> 00:13:28,679
I'm staring at this thing.

312
00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:30,179
This thing is staring at me.

313
00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:31,289
I'm eight years old.

314
00:13:31,290 --> 00:13:35,050
The strangest thing is he
reached down on her dresser

315
00:13:36,060 --> 00:13:38,010
and he was putting earrings in his ear.

316
00:13:39,666 --> 00:13:41,519
I just thought that was kind of odd.

317
00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,859
Started coming out down the stairs

318
00:13:43,860 --> 00:13:44,969
where Aunt Belle was.

319
00:13:44,970 --> 00:13:47,039
It was different than
any other human walk,

320
00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,919
as if the leg was like 100 pounds each.

321
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,723
A slow walk, a dead walk.

322
00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,912
I heard Aunt Belle talking to it.

323
00:13:54,913 --> 00:13:58,709
Oh, how you doing today, you okay?

324
00:13:58,710 --> 00:14:00,310
And that thing never spoke back.

325
00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:03,389
She said, "You still look amazing"

326
00:14:03,390 --> 00:14:06,029
and Aunt Belle was talking
to this thing, man.

327
00:14:06,030 --> 00:14:08,579
A lot of people follow me of a spirit.

328
00:14:08,580 --> 00:14:10,229
They hate us with a passion.

329
00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:11,849
They never was on our side.

330
00:14:11,850 --> 00:14:13,737
The devil always want you to worship him.

331
00:14:13,738 --> 00:14:14,741
He's trying to get you.
- But I'm not.

332
00:14:14,742 --> 00:14:16,259
Away from God and worship him

333
00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:19,469
and be his slave.
- Mm-mm.

334
00:14:19,470 --> 00:14:20,849
When I was about eight or nine,

335
00:14:20,850 --> 00:14:23,279
my mom got married to my stepdad

336
00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,769
and they had a house
built in Trotwood, Ohio.

337
00:14:25,770 --> 00:14:27,929
Trotwood was like a suburbs of the city.

338
00:14:27,930 --> 00:14:29,279
It was nice out there.

339
00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,859
Nice homes, nice schools,

340
00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:33,659
a bustling, like a Black community

341
00:14:33,660 --> 00:14:34,679
where people took care of the yards,

342
00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,149
took care of their property.

343
00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:38,000
Little Ty used to live right there.

344
00:14:38,972 --> 00:14:40,139
Yep and our old house, it's.

345
00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:41,009
We were looking at it, man.

346
00:14:41,010 --> 00:14:42,449
I kind of feel like
you still live there.

347
00:14:42,450 --> 00:14:44,009
I know.

348
00:14:44,010 --> 00:14:44,963
Look at how big that tree,

349
00:14:44,964 --> 00:14:47,129
I remember when Mom planted
that tree right there.

350
00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:47,999
- That one right there?
- Mm-hmm.

351
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,139
That was a mosquito, didn't it?

352
00:14:49,140 --> 00:14:51,708
- Yep.
- I do remember that one now.

353
00:14:51,709 --> 00:14:54,389
- Wow.
- Hey man,

354
00:14:54,390 --> 00:14:55,413
this is crazy.

355
00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,223
Good old Trotwood.

356
00:15:00,090 --> 00:15:02,790
I say Randy's always been
like kind of his own person.

357
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,699
Sometimes in life,

358
00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:07,229
and sometimes you can be really tight

359
00:15:07,230 --> 00:15:09,929
and close to your friends
more so than your own family.

360
00:15:09,930 --> 00:15:12,239
But as you get older, people change.

361
00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,249
People move away after high school,

362
00:15:14,250 --> 00:15:15,479
everybody's living their life.

363
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,609
Some of his friends that he
was real tight with used,

364
00:15:17,610 --> 00:15:19,739
you know, kind of dispersed out.

365
00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:21,109
And I think he really
realized like, you know,

366
00:15:21,110 --> 00:15:23,610
at the end of the day,
man, it's all about family.

367
00:15:24,450 --> 00:15:25,900
It's about me and my brother.

368
00:15:27,390 --> 00:15:31,649
And then the time when
me, you, Joey and Liz was

369
00:15:31,650 --> 00:15:34,200
in our apartment at the
time in Greenfield Station.

370
00:15:35,220 --> 00:15:38,549
We got there probably about
like in the evening time.

371
00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:40,559
We didn't leave till about
like early in the morning time.

372
00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,519
I remember that, yeah.

373
00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,899
We was talking about the Bible,

374
00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:44,519
we was talking about
movies, our childhood,

375
00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,319
we was talking about all kind of stuff.

376
00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,749
We moved to the living
room, to her bedroom.

377
00:15:48,750 --> 00:15:50,729
We was out reading scripture of the Bible.

378
00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:53,393
We held hands, we were in a
circle and we was praying.

379
00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,490
So after the prayer, man,

380
00:15:57,030 --> 00:16:00,509
Liz was reading more
scriptures, I saw light.

381
00:16:00,510 --> 00:16:03,869
It came from her shoulder to her elbow.

382
00:16:03,870 --> 00:16:06,929
Then it went all around her
body, outlining her body.

383
00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:09,689
One on her, one on you, one on Joey.

384
00:16:09,690 --> 00:16:12,266
I was like, well shoot,
I'm seeing this light, man.

385
00:16:12,267 --> 00:16:13,349
And she had a mirror in the room.

386
00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:15,179
I looked, I was like, is there one on me?

387
00:16:15,180 --> 00:16:16,012
There was one on me.

388
00:16:16,013 --> 00:16:18,119
So I'm like, "Look at this light"

389
00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,473
and Joey blew my mind.

390
00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:24,243
Joey laying down, he said,

391
00:16:27,127 --> 00:16:29,069
"You looking at that light, ain't you?"

392
00:16:29,070 --> 00:16:30,570
I said, "Dog, you see it too?"

393
00:16:31,615 --> 00:16:32,889
He said, "Yeah, but I
don't wanna say nothing.

394
00:16:32,890 --> 00:16:34,227
I don't wanna say nothing,
I don't wanna say nothing."

395
00:16:34,228 --> 00:16:35,060
Thought you was tripping,
thought you was the only one.

396
00:16:35,061 --> 00:16:37,289
I thought I was losing
my dang mind, man.

397
00:16:37,290 --> 00:16:39,093
I thought I was losing my mind.

398
00:16:40,020 --> 00:16:41,489
When Joey said that, I said, "My God."

399
00:16:41,490 --> 00:16:43,879
I said, "I'm glad I'm not crazy",

400
00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,753
because I'm telling you, man.

401
00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,153
But ever since that day, man,

402
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,719
I seen the world totally different.

403
00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:52,829
Like eye-opening experience.

404
00:16:52,830 --> 00:16:54,509
Yes, because like I say,

405
00:16:54,510 --> 00:16:58,019
after that time I wasn't
the same no more, man.

406
00:16:58,020 --> 00:16:58,853
Seemed like

407
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,589
God took off some,

408
00:17:01,590 --> 00:17:03,753
a certain type of lens off my eyes.

409
00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:06,359
It just blew my mind, man.

410
00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:08,819
Because see, I didn't see that light.

411
00:17:08,820 --> 00:17:09,929
- Mm.
- So that's interesting

412
00:17:09,930 --> 00:17:10,763
how

413
00:17:11,910 --> 00:17:14,789
God reveals certain
things to certain people.

414
00:17:14,790 --> 00:17:15,622
'Cause I didn't see the light

415
00:17:15,623 --> 00:17:18,059
and I don't think Liz seen
it either, I can't remember.

416
00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:19,889
But I know I didn't see it.

417
00:17:19,890 --> 00:17:22,409
But by you and Joey saying
it, I mean obviously,

418
00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:23,242
I mean, I believed it

419
00:17:23,243 --> 00:17:24,132
'cause I believe all
that stuff anyway, so.

420
00:17:24,133 --> 00:17:25,859
Yeah, when Joey said that to me,

421
00:17:25,860 --> 00:17:28,979
without me saying nothing to
him, man, that blew my mind.

422
00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:32,519
I was like, dang man, this is
really real, what I'm seeing.

423
00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,859
It was some
scary, crazy stuff, man.

424
00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:38,189
I was seeing crazy
images everywhere, man.

425
00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:40,739
It was like demonic looking faces, man.

426
00:17:40,740 --> 00:17:42,899
It was like either at a,

427
00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:45,329
it could be any type of
carpet, I could see 'em

428
00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:47,399
like in trees and the grass.

429
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,479
Whatever it was, it looked evil.

430
00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,549
- Yeah it looked evil.
- Right.

431
00:17:50,550 --> 00:17:53,039
Demonic, crazy as hell.

432
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,389
So I tried my best to shook it, man,

433
00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:55,349
shake it, shake it, shake it.

434
00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:56,183
And now

435
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:59,159
I don't see it as much anymore.

436
00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,196
I kind of prayed on that a little bit, man

437
00:18:00,197 --> 00:18:01,086
'cause I got tired of looking at those.

438
00:18:01,087 --> 00:18:03,520
I'm like, I don't wanna
keep seeing this stuff, man.

439
00:18:03,521 --> 00:18:05,321
Like, this stuff look crazy as heck.

440
00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:08,849
My brother Randy,

441
00:18:08,850 --> 00:18:10,769
me and him is both filled in the spirit.

442
00:18:10,770 --> 00:18:15,329
We have the gift of what's
called speaking in tongues.

443
00:18:15,330 --> 00:18:16,589
And really what that is

444
00:18:16,590 --> 00:18:18,479
is that's one of the gifts

445
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,479
that the Holy Spirit can give you.

446
00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,359
You can speak in other people's languages

447
00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:26,039
without even knowing their language.

448
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,499
You can communicate directly to God.

449
00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:30,449
Or sometimes I can just
minding my own business

450
00:18:30,450 --> 00:18:31,919
and the Holy Spirit will manifest in me

451
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,499
and start speaking directly to God.

452
00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:36,100
Or it could be a message for me.

453
00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,283
Oh, Mr. Jones.

454
00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:56,298
Press a lot louder, man,
he probably can't hear us.

455
00:18:56,299 --> 00:18:57,456
Right.

456
00:18:57,457 --> 00:18:59,309
Hey, hey.
- Hey Mr. Jones.

457
00:18:59,310 --> 00:19:01,149
How you doing man?
- What's up, what's up?

458
00:19:01,150 --> 00:19:02,461
What's up?
- Good to see you.

459
00:19:02,462 --> 00:19:03,459
- How you doing?
- Mr. Jones.

460
00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:04,949
All right, all right.

461
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:07,406
It's because of guys like
you and you specifically, like,

462
00:19:07,407 --> 00:19:08,999
you know that we turned
out the way we did.

463
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,709
Always supported us growing up.

464
00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:12,689
We give you your flowers,
man, while you still here.

465
00:19:12,690 --> 00:19:14,009
Hey, we appreciate that.

466
00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:16,889
And I know Randy got some
things he wanna tell you

467
00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:18,783
that he's thankful for as well.

468
00:19:20,790 --> 00:19:22,355
I told God many times, I'm like, man,

469
00:19:22,356 --> 00:19:24,174
this should be our dad.

470
00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:27,479
I know that's kind of deep,
but kind of bad though.

471
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,929
But you was always encouraged,

472
00:19:30,930 --> 00:19:31,762
like Travis said,

473
00:19:31,763 --> 00:19:35,099
always encouraged us and
you know, to keep going,

474
00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,779
you know, just looking out for us, man.

475
00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:39,179
Just, you know, being
on the level with us,

476
00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:40,049
keeping the level headed.

477
00:19:40,050 --> 00:19:42,539
And I'm like, Lord, you sure
you didn't make a mistake?

478
00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:43,994
But you know, God, don't
make mistakes, man.

479
00:19:43,995 --> 00:19:46,409
But He put you in the right
place where you needed to be

480
00:19:46,410 --> 00:19:47,769
though for us and I really,
really appreciate that, man.

481
00:19:47,770 --> 00:19:49,829
Well, I appreciate you too, man.

482
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:51,959
You guys, you guys, you don't,

483
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,639
I mean, here I am.

484
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,559
I was a GI,

485
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,999
had four girls, four
daughters that I raised.

486
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,419
No sons.
- Mm.

487
00:20:00,420 --> 00:20:02,459
You guys were like sons to me.

488
00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:03,839
And I'm proud of both of you, man.

489
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,679
You guys have done,

490
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,719
you guys have done
really well for yourself.

491
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,069
You've done really well

492
00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:09,869
and I'm proud.

493
00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:13,319
At least I can have you
here in the living room.

494
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,098
And we ain't gotta be in no sitting room

495
00:20:15,099 --> 00:20:17,142
in the prison somewhere.

496
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:19,825
Right.

497
00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:25,169
Mr. Jones was my mom and stepdad's friend.

498
00:20:25,170 --> 00:20:26,729
Him and his wife and
them would get together.

499
00:20:26,730 --> 00:20:29,009
They would drink, party, hang out

500
00:20:29,010 --> 00:20:31,379
'cause they just stayed like
maybe four or five houses down

501
00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:32,429
from us up the road.

502
00:20:32,430 --> 00:20:35,129
Like over time, Wendell started to notice

503
00:20:35,130 --> 00:20:38,429
how our stepdad would talk
to us, how he would treat us.

504
00:20:38,430 --> 00:20:39,839
And he didn't like it.

505
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,789
Every time he had a chance,
he would pull us aside.

506
00:20:41,790 --> 00:20:43,259
Like, Hey man, you know,

507
00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:46,049
if you ever want somebody
to talk to, I'm here.

508
00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:47,219
Come down to the house, you know,

509
00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:48,854
you can have lunch, you can watch a movie.

510
00:20:48,855 --> 00:20:50,639
Just, you know, whenever
you want to get away.

511
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,649
I couldn't do that at our house.

512
00:20:52,650 --> 00:20:54,513
So Jones became my father figure.

513
00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:56,639
He was the one saying, "You can do it.

514
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,259
You can do anything you
put your mind to, man.

515
00:20:58,260 --> 00:21:00,149
I believe in you, man," you know?

516
00:21:00,150 --> 00:21:02,189
Yeah, I never got that from my stepdad,

517
00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:04,083
encouragement or things like that.

518
00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:06,779
Being in Trotwood, we have,

519
00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:08,249
I haven't been here in years.

520
00:21:08,250 --> 00:21:09,173
Yeah, yeah.

521
00:21:09,174 --> 00:21:10,154
It's a big difference.

522
00:21:10,155 --> 00:21:12,869
Yeah, it's changed,
it's changed quite a bit.

523
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:15,119
I had to laugh 'cause I bought

524
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,499
all this candy and I didn't have

525
00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:18,329
not one trick or treater come past.

526
00:21:18,330 --> 00:21:19,409
Oh really?

527
00:21:19,410 --> 00:21:21,689
So I guess all the kids grew
up and just left, I guess.

528
00:21:21,690 --> 00:21:22,522
Well they, yeah.

529
00:21:22,523 --> 00:21:25,079
We just don't have a lot of
kids in the neighborhood now.

530
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,571
Bunch of old retirees
with like me, you know?

531
00:21:29,572 --> 00:21:31,072
Old retirees, man.

532
00:21:43,980 --> 00:21:45,647
The devil is where

533
00:21:47,484 --> 00:21:48,724
God is not.

534
00:21:57,750 --> 00:22:00,183
With our family, meaning all my siblings,

535
00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:03,299
we all believed in God.

536
00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:05,639
That's how we was raised.

537
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,429
So with Kela, she was
really smart and gifted

538
00:22:08,430 --> 00:22:11,309
as far as, you know, academic-wise,

539
00:22:11,310 --> 00:22:14,429
straight As, she had the chance
to be an exchange student.

540
00:22:14,430 --> 00:22:16,900
But with Kela, Kela was always thirsty

541
00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:21,059
and addicted to street guys

542
00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:22,739
and that street life.

543
00:22:22,740 --> 00:22:24,456
When we moved to Trotwood,
that was the suburbs.

544
00:22:24,457 --> 00:22:26,599
It wasn't ghetto, wasn't
ghetto kids around there.

545
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,349
It was all pleasant and nice.

546
00:22:28,350 --> 00:22:30,539
But she would still always
find a way to manage

547
00:22:30,540 --> 00:22:31,949
to get to the West Side.

548
00:22:31,950 --> 00:22:33,179
The West Side of Dayton is
where your thugs was at,

549
00:22:33,180 --> 00:22:34,859
a lot of your street cats was at.

550
00:22:34,860 --> 00:22:36,839
And she was just attracted to that.

551
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,439
So she started skipping
school, drinking, smoking weed.

552
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,909
She was hard to handle.

553
00:22:41,910 --> 00:22:45,119
And I think that slowly
became her downfall is

554
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,219
because I saw her slowly
starting to get away

555
00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:49,769
from the word of God.

556
00:22:49,770 --> 00:22:53,219
And she started to adopt a mentality of,

557
00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:54,689
I can do this, I can do that.

558
00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:58,109
I can commit these sins
because God knows my heart.

559
00:22:58,110 --> 00:22:59,459
God will forgive me.

560
00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:00,389
He'll forgive me, though.

561
00:23:00,390 --> 00:23:01,559
I used to say, "Kela,

562
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,599
but that's not a get outta jail free card.

563
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,189
This ain't Monopoly.

564
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:06,821
This is real life."

565
00:23:07,655 --> 00:23:08,488
You know what?

566
00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:11,260
I think I know when it happened,

567
00:23:14,007 --> 00:23:17,009
when I think when she was

568
00:23:17,010 --> 00:23:18,813
four months pregnant.
- Mm.

569
00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:21,640
And she got an abortion.

570
00:23:22,590 --> 00:23:24,363
I think that really affected her.

571
00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:26,603
Yeah.

572
00:23:27,870 --> 00:23:31,379
'Cause the kid's father,

573
00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:33,899
she already had two kids by the guy

574
00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:35,249
and this would've been her third baby.

575
00:23:35,250 --> 00:23:37,330
And he told her that

576
00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:39,689
if she got an abortion,

577
00:23:39,690 --> 00:23:42,269
that they would be
together and get married.

578
00:23:42,270 --> 00:23:45,933
And she was really in love
with him, totally in love.

579
00:23:46,890 --> 00:23:47,973
So she did it.

580
00:23:48,930 --> 00:23:51,269
And he did not marry her.

581
00:23:51,270 --> 00:23:53,489
They wasn't even boyfriend and girlfriend.

582
00:23:53,490 --> 00:23:54,659
They didn't even date.

583
00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:56,776
Matter of fact, he didn't
even talk to her after that.

584
00:23:56,777 --> 00:23:58,979
So I think that what happened,

585
00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:00,730
I think she had a nervous breakdown

586
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,579
because yeah, she had a
hard, hard time with that.

587
00:24:05,580 --> 00:24:07,823
Matter of fact, I don't
think she ever got over it.

588
00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:25,889
Everything took place down
Rochelle and Dewi house, man.

589
00:24:25,890 --> 00:24:28,799
See Rochelle, them, they had ghosts too.

590
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,800
They, their place was extremely haunted.

591
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,769
Kela, she would go down there,

592
00:24:34,770 --> 00:24:36,659
it'd be like a sitcom
down there for her, man.

593
00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:38,129
She'd go down there cracking laughing

594
00:24:38,130 --> 00:24:40,409
and joke about the ghost
they had in their house.

595
00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:43,743
And then we don't know the
evil spirit went into her,

596
00:24:44,730 --> 00:24:45,899
made her the way she is.

597
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,939
It'd be many nights, I had to go get her.

598
00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:49,206
She told me, I said,

599
00:24:49,207 --> 00:24:50,759
"What's so, why you keep
going out with demons?"

600
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,559
Oh they funny and this and that.

601
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,149
I said, "You gotta be careful."

602
00:24:54,150 --> 00:24:56,279
It's the ending point
when they cut you off,

603
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,379
but you don't even see it coming.

604
00:24:58,380 --> 00:24:59,313
The demons,

605
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:01,623
they cut you off.

606
00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:05,189
Then next thing I know,

607
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:06,540
Kela start having problems.

608
00:25:08,430 --> 00:25:09,839
The enemy's
gonna always trick you

609
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,069
and lead you astray.

610
00:25:11,070 --> 00:25:12,689
He's gonna make you think it's
all good in the beginning.

611
00:25:12,690 --> 00:25:14,639
Look, I got all these gifts for you.

612
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,169
He has whatever you want,

613
00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:18,479
whatever your little hearts desire.

614
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,499
What about this?

615
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:20,332
I can get you with meth.

616
00:25:20,333 --> 00:25:23,159
I can get you a little
cocaine, a little heroin.

617
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,686
Because every night it was,

618
00:25:25,687 --> 00:25:28,165
"I need", she was like, "I
need drugs, I need drugs."

619
00:25:28,166 --> 00:25:29,969
And go in the bathroom and tear it up.

620
00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:32,352
And we got into it in the hallway.

621
00:25:32,353 --> 00:25:34,409
I'm like, "I can't take it no more."

622
00:25:34,410 --> 00:25:36,809
I know when Dante, because
you know, she had three kids,

623
00:25:36,810 --> 00:25:37,889
the youngest boy,

624
00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:39,869
she was sitting in my family room

625
00:25:39,870 --> 00:25:41,876
and my steps went down
like five, six steps.

626
00:25:41,877 --> 00:25:43,199
And she was sitting on the floor

627
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,479
right in front of the
steps and she had the baby

628
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,312
sitting in her lap.

629
00:25:46,313 --> 00:25:48,149
I think he was eight or nine months old.

630
00:25:48,150 --> 00:25:49,289
I kept hearing her screaming.

631
00:25:49,290 --> 00:25:50,759
So I came to the steps,
see what was going on.

632
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,529
She said, "Get away from him.

633
00:25:52,530 --> 00:25:53,789
Get away from him.

634
00:25:53,790 --> 00:25:55,109
No, you can't bother him.

635
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:56,219
You can't have him.

636
00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:58,379
Get away, get away, get away."

637
00:25:58,380 --> 00:25:59,999
I'm like, "Kela?"

638
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,189
Wasn't nobody downstairs
but her and the baby.

639
00:26:02,190 --> 00:26:03,869
I said, "Who are you talking to?"

640
00:26:03,870 --> 00:26:05,159
I didn't see anything.

641
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,199
I said, "Who are you talking to?"

642
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,669
She said, "No, they trying to get him.

643
00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:10,199
They can't have him, they can't have him.

644
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,999
I won't let them have,"
that boy, he was shaking.

645
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,799
Tears were streaming down his face.

646
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,299
He was petrified.

647
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:20,403
He was so scared of his mom.

648
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,279
This one particular night,

649
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,379
I'm thinking like 15 or 16 years old,

650
00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:27,266
Mom gets a call from my older sister, Liz.

651
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,152
Crying on her phone saying,

652
00:26:29,153 --> 00:26:30,659
"There's something wrong with Kela."

653
00:26:30,660 --> 00:26:34,282
She looked like Kela but it wasn't her.

654
00:26:34,283 --> 00:26:35,565
I said, "Liz,"

655
00:26:35,566 --> 00:26:37,829
I said, "Something wrong with Kela."

656
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:38,849
She said, "No, nothing ain't wrong."

657
00:26:38,850 --> 00:26:40,799
I said, "Liz, I'm trying to tell you."

658
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,169
I said, "Something is wrong with Kela."

659
00:26:43,170 --> 00:26:44,639
We was laughing about something,

660
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,159
but she thought that
we was laughing at her.

661
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,439
And my sister had put braids in her hair.

662
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,409
She went upstairs and
cut out all the braids.

663
00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:54,419
So I asked her, like,
"What's wrong with you?"

664
00:26:54,420 --> 00:26:55,252
And it wasn't her.

665
00:26:55,253 --> 00:26:56,699
She was like, "Well,
what's wrong with you?

666
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:57,599
What's wrong with you?"

667
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,289
But her, you know, her head
was moving like a little snake.

668
00:27:01,290 --> 00:27:03,299
Like, "What's wrong with
you, what's wrong with you?"

669
00:27:04,133 --> 00:27:06,239
I think it all started, but
she wouldn't open the door.

670
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,533
And we knew she was home.

671
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,186
Taylor was four months old.

672
00:27:10,187 --> 00:27:12,149
I kept bamming on the door.

673
00:27:12,150 --> 00:27:13,300
We called the police

674
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,219
and they said that they couldn't
just break into her house

675
00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:18,959
without probable cause.

676
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,329
She might just be in there,
not want any company.

677
00:27:21,330 --> 00:27:23,099
You didn't wanna, you know, see anybody.

678
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:25,155
But we said, "No, we
think something's wrong."

679
00:27:25,156 --> 00:27:26,699
You know how you just get that gut feeling

680
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:27,850
that something's wrong?

681
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,360
We had to take matters
into our own hands.

682
00:27:32,550 --> 00:27:35,189
So at this point, it's
almost like coming to rescue.

683
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:37,593
We drove over there, me,

684
00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:39,719
Randy, and my mom.

685
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,799
In back of the apartment,

686
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,959
there was a space where we
could pull the car around.

687
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,849
And I was telling Randy like, "Man,

688
00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:47,069
if one of us stand on the hood of his car

689
00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:48,269
and just jump a little bit,

690
00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:50,939
I think we could manage to reach the patio

691
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:53,069
and pull ourself up and
check that patio door

692
00:27:53,070 --> 00:27:56,039
or if not, break that
glass and try to get in."

693
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,416
So we was debating on who was gonna do it,

694
00:27:57,417 --> 00:27:58,799
who was gonna do it.

695
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,329
You know, I've always been
kind of beefy, you know,

696
00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:01,499
always worked out or whatever.

697
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:04,019
At that point, I'm weighing about 190.

698
00:28:04,020 --> 00:28:05,699
Randy's only about 145.

699
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,019
That's a big weight difference.

700
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:09,659
So I'm like, "Hey man, you up."

701
00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:10,949
Randy finally got on the hood of the car.

702
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:14,429
He jumps up, he pulls himself
up, everyone's terrified.

703
00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:17,249
So he pulls on the door
end of the sliding door

704
00:28:17,250 --> 00:28:19,050
and it just happened to be unlocked.

705
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,229
And it was dark except for the light

706
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:24,449
over the kitchen stove was on.

707
00:28:24,450 --> 00:28:26,519
She had the oven on

708
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,719
and the oven open

709
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,249
and it was hot as hell in that house.

710
00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:30,479
It was blazing up in there.

711
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,690
But she had all the meat

712
00:28:33,390 --> 00:28:35,009
in the sink,

713
00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:37,169
in the kitchen sink for whatever reason.

714
00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:40,229
And I was trying my best,
man, not to make any sound

715
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:41,849
because again, all the stories I'm hearing

716
00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:43,499
from everybody what they're
saying was going on.

717
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:44,759
Yeah, we didn't know where she was at

718
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,592
in the apartment (indistinct).

719
00:28:45,593 --> 00:28:46,439
We did not know where she was at.

720
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,549
I could just picture her coming down

721
00:28:47,550 --> 00:28:49,019
that doggone hallway, man, with a knife

722
00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:51,989
or something like that,
screaming, yelling, whatever, man.

723
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:53,039
Lord knows what I would've done.

724
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,919
But when I got to that
hallway, I didn't see nothing.

725
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,929
I saw the coast was
clear down that hallway.

726
00:28:57,930 --> 00:29:00,119
I ran my ass straight to
that door, unlocked it, man.

727
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,069
Got my ass out that house.

728
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:05,489
So me and Mom make
our way to her bedroom.

729
00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:07,589
She's already sitting up
in the bed in the dark.

730
00:29:08,423 --> 00:29:09,820
Rocking back and forth

731
00:29:11,070 --> 00:29:14,039
with the baby in her arms, Taylor.

732
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,759
I stayed in the hallway and
Mom tried to talk to her.

733
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,760
I don't think she was really responsive.

734
00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:22,799
And so Mom's, "Okay, go
ahead and gimme the baby."

735
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,213
So Mom had walked up,

736
00:29:25,050 --> 00:29:26,639
tried to take the baby from her arms

737
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,199
and

738
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,447
that was a big mistake, man.

739
00:29:30,281 --> 00:29:31,113
She just lost it.

740
00:29:31,114 --> 00:29:33,122
Started cussing her out and she said,

741
00:29:33,123 --> 00:29:34,589
"All y'all ain't my family.

742
00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:37,769
All y'all are demons, y'all
some damn demons, y'all demons."

743
00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:40,296
My Mom came to us, she
backed off and she said,

744
00:29:40,297 --> 00:29:43,377
"If your faith ain't strong,
don't come in this room."

745
00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:47,309
I wasn't going in there anyway.

746
00:29:47,310 --> 00:29:49,887
So I think that's when
Mom started calling people

747
00:29:49,888 --> 00:29:51,440
and that's when she
called my Uncle Ronnie.

748
00:29:52,530 --> 00:29:55,379
That, time Uncle Ronnie was like a pastor,

749
00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:56,429
trying to be a pastor like that.

750
00:29:56,430 --> 00:29:58,529
We knew he was deep into the word.

751
00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:01,829
So Mom had called Uncle Ronnie to come in

752
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:05,493
and to pray over Kela
and try to deliver her.

753
00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:08,339
Catholic Church calls it exorcism.

754
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:09,722
But it's all the same thing.

755
00:30:09,723 --> 00:30:11,399
When you say somebody
needs to be delivered,

756
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,993
they're really saying exorcism.

757
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,549
We used to listen to like,

758
00:30:16,550 --> 00:30:20,219
A. A. Allen and Leroy Jenkins

759
00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:21,539
and Branham

760
00:30:21,540 --> 00:30:23,039
and all these different preachers

761
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,719
and they used to be casting out demons

762
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,329
'cause A. A. Allen had a album

763
00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:28,889
on

764
00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:31,469
where he would speak to the person

765
00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:32,489
that was demon possessed

766
00:30:32,490 --> 00:30:34,709
and the devil would speak through him.

767
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:36,749
You know, tell him he don't have the power

768
00:30:36,750 --> 00:30:37,979
to cast him out and stuff.

769
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:40,589
'Cause if you go against that demon,

770
00:30:40,590 --> 00:30:42,141
you gotta know what you're doing.

771
00:30:42,142 --> 00:30:42,974
- Mm-hmm.
- You know?

772
00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:44,463
Because if you don't,

773
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:47,399
then that spirit can get on you.

774
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,599
Do you remember getting that call?

775
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,089
Was it Mom that called you about Kela?

776
00:30:51,090 --> 00:30:54,629
Yeah, when I walked in, it
startled me, really, you know?

777
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:55,799
That's a
frightening thing, yeah.

778
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,539
Yeah, you dealing with a power

779
00:31:00,540 --> 00:31:03,269
that you really don't
know that much about.

780
00:31:03,270 --> 00:31:06,176
But now you in, you knowing God.

781
00:31:06,177 --> 00:31:08,212
And we got the power, you know?

782
00:31:08,213 --> 00:31:11,819
Because we used to talk about
it all the time in the church,

783
00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:15,029
you know, because He
said He gives us power

784
00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:16,559
to tread upon serpents and scorpions,

785
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,689
He give us powers over all
the powers of the enemy.

786
00:31:18,690 --> 00:31:21,569
And He said nothing by any
means shall be able to harm us.

787
00:31:21,570 --> 00:31:26,219
But if we got the power,
we can't show fear.

788
00:31:26,220 --> 00:31:28,169
Because if you show fear,

789
00:31:28,170 --> 00:31:29,776
the enemy feeds off of you.

790
00:31:29,777 --> 00:31:32,249
- Right.
- Our fear, you know,

791
00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:35,369
and it could be frightening

792
00:31:35,370 --> 00:31:37,473
because you know,

793
00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:41,459
what kind of control do
you have over that spirit?

794
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:42,959
When fear takes over you,

795
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,909
even if you are strong,

796
00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:46,173
fear make you weak, man.

797
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,499
Fear break you down.

798
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:54,149
You really wanted somebody
with you to fight that spirit.

799
00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:58,619
I don't even think I had the courage

800
00:31:58,620 --> 00:31:59,879
really

801
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,239
to go up against that
spirit that was in her.

802
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,079
Really, my faith wasn't
where I thought it was,

803
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,263
as strong as I thought it
was at that particular time.

804
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:13,889
And I just felt in
my heart at that time,

805
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:15,359
God was just telling me like,

806
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,660
y'all need to go get Joey.

807
00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:20,399
So we're banging on the door,
throwing rocks at the window,

808
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,232
banging on the door.

809
00:32:21,233 --> 00:32:22,293
He finally comes down.

810
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:24,959
I could only imagine what he was thinking,

811
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,659
being woke up in the morning,
5:00, 6:00 AM in the morning,

812
00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:29,909
his two brothers crying, terrified,

813
00:32:29,910 --> 00:32:33,059
telling him that your
little sister's possessed.

814
00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:34,863
But Joey's always been a soldier.

815
00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:38,369
Joey's always been fearless.

816
00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:40,019
So he's okay.

817
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:41,669
He wasn't worried about anything.

818
00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:42,869
He act like we didn't even tell him

819
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:43,829
what we just told him.

820
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:46,529
So we get in the car, we go over there.

821
00:32:46,530 --> 00:32:47,699
As soon as we get in there,

822
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:49,289
she was still had the baby clenched

823
00:32:49,290 --> 00:32:51,029
and couldn't nobody get the baby.

824
00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:53,069
So Joey goes in the room.

825
00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:55,829
I forget exactly what
he said to Uncle Ronnie.

826
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:59,129
After that, Joey went right for her.

827
00:32:59,130 --> 00:33:01,739
She said, "I'll kill her, I'll kill her.

828
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:04,529
I'll kill her before I
let anybody take her."

829
00:33:04,530 --> 00:33:05,362
She said that.

830
00:33:05,363 --> 00:33:07,664
And that's when she bit
down on her jaw real hard.

831
00:33:08,498 --> 00:33:09,330
She bit Taylor on the cheek, yeah.

832
00:33:09,331 --> 00:33:11,789
She clamped down and tried
to bite her face off.

833
00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:14,129
So she's tearing into her face

834
00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:16,088
and of course the baby's
screaming and crying.

835
00:33:16,922 --> 00:33:19,229
And Joey's trying to break Kela's grip.

836
00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:20,636
It's like a pit bull, man, she locked on

837
00:33:20,637 --> 00:33:23,009
and he's trying to break
her grip, her mouth,

838
00:33:23,010 --> 00:33:25,769
trying to break that bite
but he couldn't do it.

839
00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:27,522
So he had to punch her.

840
00:33:27,523 --> 00:33:29,609
I just remember him like
punching her a few times.

841
00:33:29,610 --> 00:33:31,679
And then finally,

842
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,599
he was able to kind of break her bite.

843
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,943
I held her down and she couldn't move.

844
00:33:37,776 --> 00:33:41,069
And I was praying over
her and then she stopped.

845
00:33:41,070 --> 00:33:43,049
She said, "Joey, I'm hot.

846
00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:45,389
I need to take a shower,
would you let me go?"

847
00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:46,409
I said, "Would you act right?"

848
00:33:46,410 --> 00:33:47,260
She says, "Yeah."

849
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:50,110
She went to the bathroom

850
00:33:52,137 --> 00:33:53,699
and I watched her.

851
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:55,893
She walked into that tub.

852
00:33:58,003 --> 00:33:59,279
She only turned on cold water, man.

853
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,199
And when that water hit her,

854
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,324
the whole bathroom filled with steam

855
00:34:04,325 --> 00:34:05,789
like he was putting out a fire.

856
00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:08,669
That's when the firemen came
and the police officers,

857
00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:10,229
it took nine guys to hold her.

858
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:13,489
She was throwing 'em off like
left and right, throwing 'em.

859
00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:15,989
It took nine guys to bring her down.

860
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:18,179
I know she bit one of the
police officer in the leg

861
00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:19,559
and drew blood.

862
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,209
They did take her to the mental hospital

863
00:34:21,210 --> 00:34:23,253
but I forget how long she was there.

864
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,010
She's missed

865
00:34:35,250 --> 00:34:36,839
deeply.

866
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,290
I mean, I understand the
things she went through.

867
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,873
Wow man, she went through some things.

868
00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:48,059
That's who I used to dance with

869
00:34:48,060 --> 00:34:49,610
and laugh with back in the day.

870
00:34:50,460 --> 00:34:51,510
You know what I mean?

871
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,640
But she still be missed.

872
00:34:55,470 --> 00:34:57,320
That was my little sister.

873
00:34:58,260 --> 00:35:01,289
She had a battle, ongoing battle.

874
00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:03,769
Now that mental illness, see, I ask again,

875
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:05,620
is that mental illness or is that

876
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,373
something spiritual?

877
00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:12,700
Last time I saw my Mom was

878
00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:15,483
June, 2017.

879
00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:18,160
She was

880
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:20,579
okay.

881
00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:22,469
She was stressed, though.

882
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:25,683
But she was okay for the
most part, she was okay.

883
00:35:27,140 --> 00:35:30,569
I was about three or four
years old, I'm not sure.

884
00:35:30,570 --> 00:35:32,669
But I remember she had on

885
00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:36,869
a big, white t-shirt and
she was just burning it.

886
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:39,696
And my older brother,
she asked us, she like,

887
00:35:39,697 --> 00:35:41,939
"Y'all wanna go to hell,
y'all wanna go to hell?"

888
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:44,699
Like, she just kept
saying, and I was a kid.

889
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:45,539
I didn't really know.

890
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:47,579
I don't want to go and like, you know,

891
00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:50,069
so it happened again when I was about,

892
00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:53,309
it always about four
or five years or three.

893
00:35:53,310 --> 00:35:56,699
It was always years in the gaps.

894
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,709
I just say we was protected.

895
00:35:58,710 --> 00:36:01,559
You know, like we was so
young or I was so young,

896
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,649
I didn't really understood
what was going on.

897
00:36:04,650 --> 00:36:07,289
But I didn't know how I got this mark

898
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:08,849
until I was in high school.

899
00:36:08,850 --> 00:36:12,239
I was like in, yeah, I was 15, I believe.

900
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,599
And it just something that happened.

901
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,949
I was getting ready for school.

902
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:18,629
Me and my mom, we was very close

903
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:22,139
and I was getting ready
for school one morning.

904
00:36:22,140 --> 00:36:24,269
I was just, you know,
I'm just doing what I do,

905
00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:27,719
getting dressed and I'm in
the mirror listening to music

906
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:29,879
and she come in the bathroom with me

907
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,289
and she using the restroom.

908
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:33,539
So I'm in the mirror, doing my hair

909
00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:35,226
and she just out the blue, she like,

910
00:36:35,227 --> 00:36:37,439
"Tay, we gotta get some
for that."

911
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,789
Like, facial cream.

912
00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:40,889
And I'm just like, (indistinct)?

913
00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:43,259
I'm in the mirror and I'm just
like, "For what, you know?"

914
00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:46,949
So she like, "That mark on your face."

915
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:49,686
And I'm like, yeah, I'm like,

916
00:36:49,687 --> 00:36:51,989
"I had this mark my whole life."

917
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:53,496
I'm just in the mirror and I'm just like,

918
00:36:53,497 --> 00:36:56,039
"Yeah," I'm like, "I
had this my whole life."

919
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,379
And I'm like, "I don't know what it is."

920
00:36:58,380 --> 00:37:00,509
I'm like, "It look like a bite mark."

921
00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,249
Or I was just talking.

922
00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:06,366
And from there she just busted
out crying and she just like,

923
00:37:06,367 --> 00:37:07,365
"I did it."

924
00:37:07,366 --> 00:37:09,149
And I'm like, "What you
mean you did it, Ma?"

925
00:37:09,150 --> 00:37:10,283
And she like, "I did it."

926
00:37:10,284 --> 00:37:11,549
She's like, "I didn't mean to."

927
00:37:11,550 --> 00:37:14,279
And she finally told me the
story and I'm just like, wow.

928
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,389
Like, 'cause I never knew.

929
00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:17,157
And I'm just like, "Ma, it's okay."

930
00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:19,949
I believe

931
00:37:19,950 --> 00:37:21,123
we're all tested.

932
00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:26,763
Anybody can get attacked
once he know your heart.

933
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,300
When you get away from God,

934
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,910
this crazy life that we
live in can break you down.

935
00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:09,887
We used to meet in here.
- In the basement down there.

936
00:38:09,888 --> 00:38:11,863
Yeah, we used to (indistinct).

937
00:38:11,864 --> 00:38:14,596
Oh wow, this space has not changed.

938
00:38:14,597 --> 00:38:15,469
That little Teen Center.

939
00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:16,379
- Yep.
- Little Teen Center.

940
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:19,684
Little pizzas, the
kitchen still the same.

941
00:38:19,685 --> 00:38:21,699
Right?

942
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:22,739
Yeah, this is definitely

943
00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:24,989
the hangout spot after school for sure.

944
00:38:24,990 --> 00:38:26,549
That's not the original floor.

945
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:27,382
Oh yeah.

946
00:38:27,383 --> 00:38:28,709
This was the Teen Center.

947
00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:30,779
This space right here, believe it or not,

948
00:38:30,780 --> 00:38:32,939
this little space was the Teen Center.

949
00:38:32,940 --> 00:38:36,149
So we used to have
slumber parties here and,

950
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:37,139
or sleepovers.

951
00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:38,939
And we used to sleep on these floors.

952
00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:40,419
Probably why my back still hurt.

953
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,349
I wasn't fully aware
that it was a church

954
00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:49,619
probably till a year or
so after I had been going

955
00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:51,179
'cause I didn't know, I had moved

956
00:38:51,180 --> 00:38:53,879
and everybody here was
already living in the projects

957
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,712
before I got there.

958
00:38:54,713 --> 00:38:55,979
So I met everybody when I got there.

959
00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:57,869
Actually, I remember the first,

960
00:38:57,870 --> 00:39:00,449
one of the first people I met was Randy.

961
00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:01,806
I don't even remember how I
ended up coming over here.

962
00:39:01,807 --> 00:39:05,477
I think I just followed
the crowd and I just,

963
00:39:06,456 --> 00:39:07,859
it was just a place to hang out at.

964
00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:08,729
You know what I'm saying?

965
00:39:08,730 --> 00:39:09,562
It was all my friends was there.

966
00:39:09,563 --> 00:39:12,629
I met a lot of kids that
did live in the neighborhood

967
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:14,249
or the projects came here.

968
00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:16,109
And it was always the Teen Center.

969
00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:17,099
- Yes.
- Right.

970
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:20,249
The Teen Center was not, you
know, Hope Lutheran Church.

971
00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:21,139
- Yeah.
- We're going

972
00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:22,164
to the Teen Center.

973
00:39:22,165 --> 00:39:22,997
Right.

974
00:39:22,998 --> 00:39:25,409
And this part was normally was closed off.

975
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:27,355
We was supposed to be stay downstairs.

976
00:39:27,356 --> 00:39:28,188
Yeah.

977
00:39:28,189 --> 00:39:30,359
But we always reaching
out to explore a little bit.

978
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,632
It was guidance because look at us now.

979
00:39:32,633 --> 00:39:34,829
I mean, we weren't out there in trouble.

980
00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:36,599
We wasn't nowhere stealing,
you know what I'm saying?

981
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,432
We was here.

982
00:39:37,433 --> 00:39:39,059
I don't think we at that time,

983
00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:41,099
and I don't, I won't speak for everybody.

984
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,229
I don't think that we
understood the significance.

985
00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:44,099
It was somewhere kind of we,

986
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:45,389
our friends were there

987
00:39:45,390 --> 00:39:46,766
and that's where we hung out at.

988
00:39:46,767 --> 00:39:47,836
And I guess looking back at it now,

989
00:39:47,837 --> 00:39:51,239
it was kind of a safe
space for a lot of us.

990
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,269
Amongst us living in that project

991
00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:56,399
that we grew up in for so many years,

992
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,809
it was a sense of like family,

993
00:39:57,810 --> 00:39:58,949
I call them my mom.

994
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:59,847
It was bad.

995
00:39:59,848 --> 00:40:02,249
And I mean it was a
place to get a warm meal.

996
00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:03,083
I mean,

997
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,439
and it was just to have things

998
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,939
that we didn't have at home.

999
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:11,639
And not to say that we
just grew up dirt poor,

1000
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,939
but just things that we didn't
have at home, it was here.

1001
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:17,849
And some of the counselors
even opened up their homes

1002
00:40:17,850 --> 00:40:20,646
to us and allowed us to stay
the night at their houses.

1003
00:40:20,647 --> 00:40:21,479
Yeah.

1004
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,069
Allowed us, took us to the movies.

1005
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:25,027
That's why I saw "Rocky
IV" for the first time.

1006
00:40:25,028 --> 00:40:25,860
Yeah, yeah.

1007
00:40:25,861 --> 00:40:27,727
That's why I saw "The
Goonies" for the first time

1008
00:40:27,728 --> 00:40:29,039
at the movies.

1009
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,569
It's time away that you were taken away

1010
00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:33,629
from wherever you may be going
through at home or missing.

1011
00:40:33,630 --> 00:40:36,359
Because that's an experience
that my mother couldn't afford,

1012
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,069
for me to go to the movies
to see "The Goonies".

1013
00:40:38,070 --> 00:40:40,139
One thing for me that
stuck out for me was

1014
00:40:40,140 --> 00:40:42,209
they afforded the opportunity
for me to go to camp

1015
00:40:42,210 --> 00:40:45,059
and they paid for our clothing.

1016
00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:47,579
And I remember it sticks out in my head,

1017
00:40:47,580 --> 00:40:50,339
Burger King on Woodman.

1018
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:53,069
The lady stopped there and
that was my very first Whopper.

1019
00:40:53,070 --> 00:40:55,956
So you just imagine the excitement.

1020
00:40:55,957 --> 00:40:56,849
And I still can't believe

1021
00:40:56,850 --> 00:40:58,517
the church is still here.

1022
00:40:58,518 --> 00:40:59,429
If
weren't for the Teen Center,

1023
00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:00,329
boy, I don't know.

1024
00:41:00,330 --> 00:41:02,801
And despite the racism
that was going on.

1025
00:41:06,059 --> 00:41:07,829
When
we got here, was no racism.

1026
00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:10,394
I had, I remember
when I first moved over,

1027
00:41:10,395 --> 00:41:12,089
I had, 'cause like I said,

1028
00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:13,799
I moved from West Dayton

1029
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,429
and I had never been called
the N-word ever in my life.

1030
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:19,019
And I remember vividly,

1031
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:21,299
me and my sister walking to the store.

1032
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:22,859
We had, like I said,
we had maybe been over

1033
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:24,689
like 30 days or so, a month.

1034
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,279
And young kid,

1035
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,559
he couldn't have been
more than 17 years old,

1036
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,079
start yelling, "N-words on the
block, N-words on the block,

1037
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,309
N-words on the block."
- Mm.

1038
00:41:32,310 --> 00:41:34,109
And I remember being,
I'm like looking around

1039
00:41:34,110 --> 00:41:34,942
like who's he talking about?

1040
00:41:34,943 --> 00:41:35,796
Like, where they at?

1041
00:41:35,797 --> 00:41:36,629
You know what I mean?

1042
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:38,159
Like, I didn't know what
he was talking about.

1043
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,992
Where are they?

1044
00:41:38,993 --> 00:41:40,263
That was so foreign to me.

1045
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,799
Well, well I mean you
talking about racism.

1046
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,059
Yeah. I mean,

1047
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:49,559
me and Lucas have experienced some things

1048
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,860
like that back in the day.

1049
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:53,822
Just walking down the street,
getting called out your name,

1050
00:41:53,823 --> 00:41:55,413
just being disrespected.

1051
00:41:57,330 --> 00:41:58,957
And me, the type of guy I was,

1052
00:41:58,958 --> 00:42:01,379
I take the matters in
my own hands, you know?

1053
00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:02,999
So

1054
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,483
yeah,

1055
00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:07,919
yeah.

1056
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,840
I really don't like thinking
about it 'cause it's

1057
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,379
open up old wounds, you
know what I'm saying?

1058
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:15,719
So yeah, I just leave it alone.

1059
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:18,363
Just, you know, put it alone.

1060
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,789
See when, one time when my uncle,

1061
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:30,809
he was Downtown on a drug charge,

1062
00:42:30,810 --> 00:42:32,819
I think it was '58,

1063
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:35,699
the county jail was on Main Street

1064
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:38,039
and on the side, there was a little alley

1065
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,179
that you could pull in.

1066
00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:41,969
And so she would pull in there

1067
00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:45,419
and pull up there and
then he would be up high

1068
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:47,399
and she would be talking to him.

1069
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,229
She wanted to know what he wanted to wear

1070
00:42:49,230 --> 00:42:51,359
to court and everything
'cause she would bring

1071
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,769
whatever he needed to wear to court,

1072
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:55,139
she would bring it to him.

1073
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:56,849
And so while we were
sitting up there talking,

1074
00:42:56,850 --> 00:42:58,169
she was talking to him.

1075
00:42:58,170 --> 00:43:00,329
Then I heard this sound
go pitty-pat, pitty-pat,

1076
00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:01,649
pitty-pat, pitty-pat.

1077
00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:04,049
And then there was two sheriffs,

1078
00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:07,529
two deputy sheriffs running where we were,

1079
00:43:07,530 --> 00:43:09,599
where we was in the alley.

1080
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,249
And police, then he took
a gun, put it to my head,

1081
00:43:14,250 --> 00:43:15,116
cocked the hammer.

1082
00:43:15,950 --> 00:43:16,782
And they told me, he said,

1083
00:43:16,783 --> 00:43:17,615
if I make the wrong move,

1084
00:43:17,616 --> 00:43:20,203
he gonna blow my GD brains out.

1085
00:43:20,204 --> 00:43:21,036
You know?

1086
00:43:21,037 --> 00:43:23,404
And you was how old again?

1087
00:43:23,405 --> 00:43:24,989
I was 16 then.

1088
00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:26,699
And when they was interrogating me,

1089
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,859
smacked me upside the head, you know,

1090
00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:31,379
trying to get a confession out of me.

1091
00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:34,120
So, and then what happened was

1092
00:43:35,340 --> 00:43:36,423
the next day,

1093
00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:40,859
they got us outta jail.

1094
00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:44,219
And so one of the police,
one of the sheriff deputies

1095
00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:47,039
that worked down there, he
was a friend of the family,

1096
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,519
you know, but he didn't
know all this was going on.

1097
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,369
And so, but when we told him what happened

1098
00:43:53,370 --> 00:43:54,842
then my grandmother and them

1099
00:43:54,843 --> 00:43:57,869
when they got the NAACP

1100
00:43:57,870 --> 00:44:00,659
and they came in and brought
charges against them.

1101
00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:02,609
So I think they got suspended for a while,

1102
00:44:02,610 --> 00:44:05,485
but they didn't get fired, you know?

1103
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:19,469
I'll tell you this,

1104
00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:23,369
Indianapolis, Indiana, back in the '50s,

1105
00:44:23,370 --> 00:44:25,889
I hear a lot of people say

1106
00:44:25,890 --> 00:44:27,993
that it was really prejudiced back then.

1107
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,080
But I'd never experienced any of it.

1108
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:33,030
And that's the truth.

1109
00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:47,313
Nobody loves me.

1110
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:51,003
Nobody cares about me.

1111
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,860
That's what I thought.

1112
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,433
Well, that's what the
devil wanted me to think.

1113
00:44:59,340 --> 00:45:02,189
I don't exist, I don't count.

1114
00:45:02,190 --> 00:45:03,093
You're nothing.

1115
00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:06,843
Why are you even here?

1116
00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:09,490
This message goes out to those

1117
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,823
who are struggling.

1118
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,313
You're not alone.

1119
00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:19,240
It's gonna be a long road.

1120
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,423
There's gonna be times where
you gonna want to give up.

1121
00:45:24,690 --> 00:45:27,179
There gonna be times where
you want to commit suicide

1122
00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:29,639
'cause you can't handle it no more.

1123
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,473
Been there,

1124
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,273
done that.

1125
00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:38,279
God touched my heart

1126
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,049
and told me

1127
00:45:40,050 --> 00:45:41,403
I'm not done yet.

1128
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,530
I never took into consideration

1129
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,679
that God above, the ruler, man,

1130
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,513
told me that.

1131
00:45:56,370 --> 00:45:58,660
Luckily He did not dismiss me

1132
00:46:00,090 --> 00:46:01,803
the way I dismissed Him.

1133
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:06,119
Travis, would it be all right

1134
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,708
if we prayed before we start?
- Sure.

1135
00:46:07,709 --> 00:46:09,542
Most definitely, yeah.

1136
00:46:14,250 --> 00:46:15,243
So my dad,

1137
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:17,999
was a former Marine.

1138
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,953
At some point when I was like a baby,

1139
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,990
he started showing
signs of mental illness.

1140
00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:28,799
He started showing signs of being bipolar

1141
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,689
and manic depression

1142
00:46:30,690 --> 00:46:31,740
and even some type of

1143
00:46:33,150 --> 00:46:34,203
schizophrenia.

1144
00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:37,349
But you know, back in those days,

1145
00:46:37,350 --> 00:46:38,679
in the late '70s and early '80s,

1146
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,329
there really wasn't a lot
of help like that back then.

1147
00:46:42,330 --> 00:46:46,979
Especially for African American males,

1148
00:46:46,980 --> 00:46:50,069
especially just coming back
home from the war or whatnot.

1149
00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:51,770
There was a time where he kind of,

1150
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,739
he took the family hostage at gunpoint,

1151
00:46:55,740 --> 00:46:57,899
barricaded the doors

1152
00:46:57,900 --> 00:46:59,069
where the police couldn't get in.

1153
00:46:59,070 --> 00:47:01,589
And it was a big standoff,
a hostage situation.

1154
00:47:01,590 --> 00:47:04,439
You know what, I believe you know this,

1155
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,409
the secular world caused
like a mental breakdown.

1156
00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:10,833
But to me, it was more of
like demonic in nature.

1157
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:14,879
If my dad was your patient

1158
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,249
or came to you for help,

1159
00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:19,799
how would you help someone like that?

1160
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,949
So I think there's a very good chance

1161
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:26,279
that I wouldn't end up being
the person to help your dad.

1162
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,606
And I say that because I'm
an outpatient therapist.

1163
00:47:29,607 --> 00:47:31,949
- Okay.
- And I think

1164
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:34,409
for me, the very first
thing I'm gonna do is

1165
00:47:34,410 --> 00:47:37,349
make sure that this is the right fit.

1166
00:47:37,350 --> 00:47:38,182
Mm, okay.

1167
00:47:38,183 --> 00:47:42,509
And if somebody is a danger
to themselves or others,

1168
00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:44,369
that is not a good fit for me.

1169
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:46,272
Like, an immediate danger.
- Right.

1170
00:47:46,273 --> 00:47:47,789
It's kinda, and this is
just coming to me now,

1171
00:47:47,790 --> 00:47:49,649
it's kind of ironic because
it's like my dad had

1172
00:47:49,650 --> 00:47:51,209
his breakdown.

1173
00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:52,653
They had to rescue us.

1174
00:47:53,820 --> 00:47:57,449
My sister Chekala, she had a breakdown

1175
00:47:57,450 --> 00:48:00,239
and we had to break in to rescue

1176
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,931
her three month, year old daughter.

1177
00:48:01,932 --> 00:48:03,509
Hmm.

1178
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:04,949
The good thing is,

1179
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:07,443
thank God that my dad
didn't harm any of us.

1180
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:10,709
But in this situation with her,

1181
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:12,753
she did end up harming her baby.

1182
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,773
She bit down and tried to
bite the baby's face off.

1183
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,859
So isn't that kind of crazy?

1184
00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:23,879
It's like thinking about it
now, my dad had an issue.

1185
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,429
She had an issue and it's both
situations where, you know,

1186
00:48:26,430 --> 00:48:27,629
there was kids involved.

1187
00:48:27,630 --> 00:48:29,250
Right.

1188
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:38,917
We do see in the Bible
evidence that sin can,

1189
00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:44,669
its impact can go from
generation to generation.

1190
00:48:44,670 --> 00:48:49,529
And I guess we could debate
about why that happens,

1191
00:48:49,530 --> 00:48:53,729
or is that just a natural progression?

1192
00:48:53,730 --> 00:48:58,469
Because you know, we are

1193
00:48:58,470 --> 00:49:03,093
nurtured by these folks and
it what they do impacts us.

1194
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,389
I would feel most comfortable

1195
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:08,279
looking at it from that perspective.

1196
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,539
- Right?
- But I guess I couldn't say

1197
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:12,539
for sure because I'm
not in the mind of God.

1198
00:49:12,540 --> 00:49:14,279
I've definitely heard of that.

1199
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,169
You know, these sorts of,

1200
00:49:16,170 --> 00:49:18,779
particularly this type
of spiritual affliction

1201
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:20,099
that to the point where there might be

1202
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:22,199
demon possession,

1203
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,543
that carrying through generations.

1204
00:49:28,110 --> 00:49:29,729
We could definitely say there is

1205
00:49:29,730 --> 00:49:32,429
reason to believe that what we see

1206
00:49:32,430 --> 00:49:33,610
impacts

1207
00:49:34,530 --> 00:49:35,549
the next generation.

1208
00:49:35,550 --> 00:49:38,763
And it's not just what's seen,
sometimes it's what's done.

1209
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,759
There's a more direct impact.

1210
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,879
And so that could transcend

1211
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,859
from generation to generation.

1212
00:49:46,860 --> 00:49:48,929
But it absolutely doesn't have to,.

1213
00:49:48,930 --> 00:49:50,759
- Right.
- And I think

1214
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,689
there are those, and I think
of my own family members,

1215
00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:58,469
some of them have seen things growing up

1216
00:49:58,470 --> 00:50:00,449
that they didn't appreciate

1217
00:50:00,450 --> 00:50:02,579
and that were really hard for them,

1218
00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:04,319
abuse and things like this.

1219
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,243
And they,

1220
00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:08,639
you know, it sometimes impacts

1221
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,413
different siblings differently.

1222
00:50:11,610 --> 00:50:14,969
And you can be a person who

1223
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:17,009
stops the trend.

1224
00:50:17,010 --> 00:50:17,842
Right?

1225
00:50:17,843 --> 00:50:18,794
By the power of God.

1226
00:50:18,795 --> 00:50:19,627
Oh yeah.

1227
00:50:19,628 --> 00:50:21,020
To say no, not here.

1228
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:30,359
So for me, I started off drinking.

1229
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,192
I'm just gonna put it all out there.

1230
00:50:31,193 --> 00:50:34,139
I started out drinking about
the age of five or six.

1231
00:50:34,140 --> 00:50:35,909
My mom had a boyfriend named Doc

1232
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:37,319
after her and my dad got divorced.

1233
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,469
He always used to keep his
Colt 45 in the freezer,

1234
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:42,389
so to get cold during the summer.

1235
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:44,849
So I would open it up, take a few swigs,

1236
00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:45,809
put it back.

1237
00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:47,789
Even as a teenager, I
would sneak and drink.

1238
00:50:47,790 --> 00:50:49,679
There'd be times I'd go to school drunk.

1239
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,529
For me as a person, if I
had to judge my own self,

1240
00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:55,889
I would say my downfall was drinking.

1241
00:50:55,890 --> 00:50:58,709
I didn't do drugs, they
couldn't get me to smoke weed.

1242
00:50:58,710 --> 00:51:02,339
I get into working out a
lot, lost a lot of weight,

1243
00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:03,779
started feeling myself.

1244
00:51:03,780 --> 00:51:05,480
I think I'm a pretty handsome guy.

1245
00:51:07,223 --> 00:51:10,679
At this point, probably like
about 2021, I'm selling cars.

1246
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,229
I went from detailing
cars to selling cars.

1247
00:51:13,230 --> 00:51:14,969
Always dressed nice, always liked fashion

1248
00:51:14,970 --> 00:51:16,619
and always kept myself well groomed.

1249
00:51:16,620 --> 00:51:18,689
So I had a lot of women approaching me

1250
00:51:18,690 --> 00:51:19,799
and it became addicting.

1251
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,719
It became a drug, man.

1252
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:22,863
I was on crack,

1253
00:51:24,510 --> 00:51:26,399
woman crack, sex crack.

1254
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,349
I think one day I had sex in one day,

1255
00:51:28,350 --> 00:51:30,203
I had sex with like three or four women.

1256
00:51:31,230 --> 00:51:32,099
It is what it is.

1257
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,599
I'm not the only one.

1258
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,459
My brother Randy noticed
that something was

1259
00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:38,219
wrong with me one day
'cause I just came up

1260
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:39,693
on all these girls in the club, you know.

1261
00:51:39,694 --> 00:51:42,119
to get somebody's number.

1262
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,069
Again, it really wasn't
cell phones like that.

1263
00:51:44,070 --> 00:51:46,559
Yeah, we had phones a little
bit, but it wasn't no texting

1264
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,059
I don't think back then.

1265
00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:49,379
So I got all these numbers or whatever

1266
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:51,509
and we're passing a gas
station about to go home.

1267
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:53,699
And I see this beautiful
girl get outta the car

1268
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:54,532
about to pump her gas.

1269
00:51:54,533 --> 00:51:57,088
Hey man, pull up, pull over,
I gotta talk to her, pull up.

1270
00:51:57,089 --> 00:51:58,529
He like, "Man, you just talked

1271
00:51:58,530 --> 00:51:59,909
to three or four girls in the club,

1272
00:51:59,910 --> 00:52:01,147
like what are you doing?"

1273
00:52:01,148 --> 00:52:02,129
I said, "Come on man,
I gotta get her number.

1274
00:52:02,130 --> 00:52:03,239
I gotta get her number."

1275
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,819
And he like, "Man,
something wrong with you."

1276
00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:06,929
And I'm like, "Oh man,
you just hating on me.

1277
00:52:06,930 --> 00:52:07,762
You just mad 'cause you didn't get

1278
00:52:07,763 --> 00:52:08,966
no girls' numbers tonight."

1279
00:52:08,967 --> 00:52:10,499
And I never forget that though.

1280
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:13,679
But he pulled over and I got a number.

1281
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,559
That always stuck in the back of my mind.

1282
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,869
And I started to realize
like, you know what?

1283
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:20,489
I think I got a problem

1284
00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:22,949
and now I'm starting
to drink more and more

1285
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:24,299
early in the day now.

1286
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:27,119
Now when I wake up, I
don't want a cup of coffee.

1287
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,919
I'm ready to do some shots.

1288
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,979
I want it to be party time all the time.

1289
00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:34,049
I didn't want the party to end.

1290
00:52:34,050 --> 00:52:36,239
My finances started to get all messed up

1291
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,949
and started getting in debt.

1292
00:52:37,950 --> 00:52:39,750
So as these things started happening

1293
00:52:40,650 --> 00:52:41,759
and I'm getting deeper and deeper,

1294
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,673
I'm getting more and more
and more outta control,

1295
00:52:46,170 --> 00:52:47,819
one day I knew,

1296
00:52:47,820 --> 00:52:51,209
I felt in my soul something
was about to happen to me.

1297
00:52:51,210 --> 00:52:53,519
I felt like death was
coming to me somehow.

1298
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,253
I didn't know how, but it scared me.

1299
00:52:57,310 --> 00:53:00,809
And so I got on my knees and I prayed.

1300
00:53:00,810 --> 00:53:03,029
And so the last prayer I said,

1301
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:06,029
before I really gave
my life to God, I said,

1302
00:53:06,030 --> 00:53:07,979
I'm praying in the room,
in the dark on my knees.

1303
00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:11,849
And I said, "God, I give my life to You."

1304
00:53:11,850 --> 00:53:15,869
I said, "I knock all the chess
pieces off my board of life

1305
00:53:15,870 --> 00:53:18,507
and You arrange them as You wish."

1306
00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:23,656
I felt the love of God descend on me, man,

1307
00:53:23,657 --> 00:53:24,723
like a warm,

1308
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,779
comforting shower.

1309
00:53:27,780 --> 00:53:30,719
Like, I was just being baptized
in the spirit at that point.

1310
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:33,149
I never felt love like that before.

1311
00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:35,519
I never felt peace like that before.

1312
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,849
I had tears and snot and
anything just pouring.

1313
00:53:38,850 --> 00:53:39,929
It's like I was just being drained,

1314
00:53:39,930 --> 00:53:41,489
just washed clean.

1315
00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:44,129
After that, I just knew I was
gonna be going somewhere soon.

1316
00:53:44,130 --> 00:53:46,409
I didn't know where, I just
knew I was going somewhere.

1317
00:53:46,410 --> 00:53:47,849
And so one night, as I'm jogging,

1318
00:53:47,850 --> 00:53:50,009
I started working out again,
caring about my body again

1319
00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:51,569
and you know, cutting out
a lot of that drinking

1320
00:53:51,570 --> 00:53:52,559
I was doing.

1321
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,439
And so one night while I'm
jogging in the neighborhood,

1322
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,859
it's like a broadcast system
turned inside of my head.

1323
00:53:58,860 --> 00:53:59,692
The Holy Spirit said,

1324
00:53:59,693 --> 00:54:01,147
"You're going into the military."

1325
00:54:02,010 --> 00:54:03,260
And when he told me that,

1326
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,650
I was like, cool.

1327
00:54:24,330 --> 00:54:26,489
If you look at the young,

1328
00:54:26,490 --> 00:54:30,539
the young is pushing
the church to the side

1329
00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:32,609
because you know, they,

1330
00:54:32,610 --> 00:54:37,088
I guess they fed up with the
ruckus in the church, the.

1331
00:54:37,089 --> 00:54:37,921
The
politics and everything.

1332
00:54:37,922 --> 00:54:39,603
Yeah, mm-hmm.

1333
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:45,569
The young people is the
ones that is our future.

1334
00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:47,459
And those are the ones that we need

1335
00:54:47,460 --> 00:54:51,239
to help to bring 'em about,
out of this situation.

1336
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:55,859
Because you know, what do
they have to look forward to?

1337
00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:58,859
You know, a lot of 'em, they
don't know who they are.

1338
00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:01,019
You know, the young people,

1339
00:55:01,020 --> 00:55:03,039
they don't have no jobs, you know,

1340
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,459
don't have nothing to do.

1341
00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:06,419
They don't have anything to do.

1342
00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:09,809
But the streets is
telling them what to do.

1343
00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:13,499
So, but they don't realize
where we come from.

1344
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:17,789
You know, we come from a
rich heritage, you know?

1345
00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:19,949
So when we come from Africa,

1346
00:55:19,950 --> 00:55:21,899
they tell us to go back to Africa.

1347
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:25,379
In Africa, there are
54 countries in Africa.

1348
00:55:25,380 --> 00:55:28,079
So when you say go back to Africa,

1349
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,119
what, which country are you talking about?

1350
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,529
When we came over here and
they called us Negroes,

1351
00:55:34,530 --> 00:55:36,449
but they called us Negroes is

1352
00:55:36,450 --> 00:55:39,029
because that's the area that we came,

1353
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:41,571
we came from a place called Negroland.

1354
00:55:41,572 --> 00:55:43,289
I don't know if you've
ever heard of it before.

1355
00:55:43,290 --> 00:55:45,659
Negroland is over there where Ghana is.

1356
00:55:45,660 --> 00:55:49,649
And this is where the
tribe of Judah came out of.

1357
00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:51,089
And then that's the reason why you see

1358
00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:54,059
a lot of preachers

1359
00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:59,039
saying that, letting them
know that the Negroes today,

1360
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,040
they are the

1361
00:56:01,952 --> 00:56:03,696
lost tribe of Israel.

1362
00:56:03,697 --> 00:56:06,479
You know, they from the tribe of Judah.

1363
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,239
But our kids, they
don't know who they are.

1364
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,249
They think they thugs and hoodlums,

1365
00:56:11,250 --> 00:56:13,473
you know, we killing up each other.

1366
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:16,169
They put us in the ghetto.

1367
00:56:16,170 --> 00:56:18,209
They put us in the 'hood.

1368
00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:19,709
They got us

1369
00:56:19,710 --> 00:56:21,059
fighting against one another.

1370
00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:21,893
You know,

1371
00:56:23,139 --> 00:56:25,469
as long as we killing one another,

1372
00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:26,519
they're not gonna bother us.

1373
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,123
But if we move outside of our culture,

1374
00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:33,599
then that's when the problem starts.

1375
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,739
You know, when you're dealing
with us as Black people,

1376
00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:41,399
the media got us cast out as thugs,

1377
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,559
hoodlums, you know, everything we do,

1378
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,709
we are the poster boys for crime.

1379
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:49,169
We know how to get along with people,

1380
00:56:49,170 --> 00:56:51,269
but people don't know
how to get along with us.

1381
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:54,003
Because if you look at us as a people,

1382
00:56:55,140 --> 00:56:57,202
in reality we the most
loving people there is

1383
00:56:57,203 --> 00:56:59,613
because we accept anybody in.

1384
00:57:00,570 --> 00:57:03,813
But if you kick a dog long
enough, he going to bite you.

1385
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,579
A lot of people
aren't used to people like us

1386
00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:10,469
because we're everything wrapped in one.

1387
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:11,789
We're the total package.

1388
00:57:11,790 --> 00:57:13,559
I can be polite to you, how you doing?

1389
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,229
Shake your hand, open
the door for old lady,

1390
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:17,909
carry your groceries for you.

1391
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:19,203
But at the same time,

1392
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,589
even though they was girls,
we had three sisters,

1393
00:57:22,590 --> 00:57:24,573
Liz, Kela and Rhonda still here.

1394
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:29,883
Joey taught them how to fight like men.

1395
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,124
Most girls in the age

1396
00:57:32,125 --> 00:57:33,359
used to see 'em get into
cat fight at school.

1397
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,299
You just see 'em swinging like
little cat fights, not them.

1398
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:38,009
They would square up and would box

1399
00:57:38,010 --> 00:57:40,649
and that's how they won all their fights.

1400
00:57:40,650 --> 00:57:42,989
There was a lot of fights
in the '80s growing up.

1401
00:57:42,990 --> 00:57:43,919
We don't look for trouble.

1402
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,809
Like I said, we joke and we laugh,

1403
00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:50,099
but every Peagler, we got
what I call a kill switch.

1404
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:52,443
I can joke with you, laugh with you.

1405
00:57:53,580 --> 00:57:54,629
And if it comes down to it,

1406
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:56,223
I can also knock your ass out.

1407
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:18,089
The barracks I stayed in was

1408
00:58:18,090 --> 00:58:21,569
like a old World War II
barracks, small room.

1409
00:58:21,570 --> 00:58:24,329
I had one roommate, Schutz
was deployed at the time.

1410
00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:25,880
He was deployed to Afghanistan.

1411
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:27,929
We shared a bunk bed.

1412
00:58:27,930 --> 00:58:29,309
Mine was the bottom bunk.

1413
00:58:29,310 --> 00:58:30,530
Turned off the lights.

1414
00:58:31,364 --> 00:58:33,239
There was a little moonlight
coming through the blinds.

1415
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,366
To be clear, I was not asleep.

1416
00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:39,899
I didn't have any drinks,
I didn't take any drugs.

1417
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:42,566
I'm laying there just thinking,
looking up at the, you know,

1418
00:58:42,567 --> 00:58:45,119
the bed, you know, above me.

1419
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,035
The bed compressed with weight.

1420
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:53,475
And then is there somebody
roll over on their side.

1421
00:58:54,750 --> 00:58:56,309
There's certain times in life

1422
00:58:56,310 --> 00:58:58,769
you gotta have a sanity
check with yourself.

1423
00:58:58,770 --> 00:59:00,869
No one's in the room with me, empty bunk.

1424
00:59:00,870 --> 00:59:01,776
And I said to myself,

1425
00:59:01,777 --> 00:59:04,499
"Self, ain't nobody in this room with me."

1426
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:08,579
As soon as I said that,
that's when I seen it.

1427
00:59:08,580 --> 00:59:10,109
So this thing grabs me.

1428
00:59:10,110 --> 00:59:15,110
I have never in my life
felt power like that before,

1429
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,299
physical power.

1430
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:21,329
This is the strongest
thing I have ever felt.

1431
00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:22,679
I couldn't move an inch.

1432
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,913
It started crushing me.

1433
00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:27,520
I felt like I had a whole house

1434
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,083
sitting on my chest in my abdomen area.

1435
00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:34,799
The pressure was so intense,

1436
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,979
I thought I was just going to explode.

1437
00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:40,319
I start calling out in the name of Jesus,

1438
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,136
anything unholy has to flee in Jesus' name

1439
00:59:42,137 --> 00:59:43,709
'cause that's the power

1440
00:59:43,710 --> 00:59:44,689
and the demons know that,

1441
00:59:44,690 --> 00:59:47,369
in the name of Jesus, name
of Jesus, name of Jesus.

1442
00:59:47,370 --> 00:59:49,439
But I can feel it lean over

1443
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,290
and when I say the name of
Jesus, it whispered in my ear.

1444
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,120
And that's the first time

1445
00:59:56,820 --> 00:59:59,159
I heard a demon speak.

1446
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,959
It started mocking me.

1447
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,889
It time me.

1448
01:00:01,890 --> 01:00:03,329
Every time I say Jesus,

1449
01:00:03,330 --> 01:00:04,769
it would say another name

1450
01:00:04,770 --> 01:00:05,653
in the name of Jesus.

1451
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,269
It was throwing me off,

1452
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:11,009
like you ever had your
equilibrium thrown off?

1453
01:00:11,010 --> 01:00:12,749
It's like I was being tested.

1454
01:00:12,750 --> 01:00:14,339
When you gonna give up?

1455
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:18,239
Jesus ain't gonna save you
this time, that ass is mine.

1456
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,679
I started to lose hope, man.

1457
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,629
I said, "I guess this is it."

1458
01:00:21,630 --> 01:00:24,269
As soon as I was about to give up,

1459
01:00:24,270 --> 01:00:26,699
that's when the Holy Spirit
started talking to me.

1460
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:28,739
So in the middle of that battle,

1461
01:00:28,740 --> 01:00:29,946
the Holy Spirit said,

1462
01:00:29,947 --> 01:00:34,139
"Fear not, this thing cannot kill you.

1463
01:00:34,140 --> 01:00:36,629
This thing cannot destroy you

1464
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:38,547
because I'm in you."

1465
01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:41,763
When the Holy Spirit told me that,

1466
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,229
I started smiling, man,

1467
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:48,869
from ear to freaking ear.

1468
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:50,236
I just started smiling, like, ah.

1469
01:00:50,237 --> 01:00:52,230
I just started smiling, man.

1470
01:01:42,330 --> 01:01:46,109
I smiled because I felt
the authority of God.

1471
01:01:46,110 --> 01:01:48,869
And then I said, "In the
name of Jesus" one more time,

1472
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:50,789
before I was scared, I was being crushed.

1473
01:01:50,790 --> 01:01:53,519
I could feel the pain and the
weight of this thing on me.

1474
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,349
I didn't feel anything anymore.

1475
01:01:55,350 --> 01:01:57,419
And the demon just, it broke up off of me.

1476
01:01:57,420 --> 01:01:59,059
It is just like it just one of God.

1477
01:01:59,060 --> 01:02:00,243
It just went away.

1478
01:02:03,210 --> 01:02:04,589
I felt the power of the Lord.

1479
01:02:04,590 --> 01:02:06,093
I felt the love of the Lord.

1480
01:02:10,890 --> 01:02:12,490
I always knew

1481
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:16,829
that God is the Almighty,

1482
01:02:16,830 --> 01:02:18,123
He is the all powerful.

1483
01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:20,823
God is the creator.

1484
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:24,239
Lucifer is the created being.

1485
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,099
Don't get it twisted.

1486
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:27,032
He is not the creator.

1487
01:02:30,060 --> 01:02:33,569
So the devil is a spiritual being.

1488
01:02:33,570 --> 01:02:37,199
He's been given dominion at
this time over the Earth.

1489
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,659
So we could say that this is his realm.

1490
01:02:39,660 --> 01:02:41,759
Genesis 3,

1491
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,989
we see three characters at
play in the beginning of this.

1492
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:48,599
And then a fourth character enters.

1493
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,749
So the three characters at play are

1494
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:53,279
the serpent,

1495
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,993
they're Adam and they're Eve.

1496
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,429
Many people minimize
this moment in the Garden

1497
01:02:59,430 --> 01:03:03,299
because they say all that Adam
and Eve did was eat a fruit.

1498
01:03:03,300 --> 01:03:05,729
But the reality is,

1499
01:03:05,730 --> 01:03:08,530
Adam and Eve lived in a perfect garden

1500
01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:11,643
and they had one rule.

1501
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:15,179
Don't eat of the fruit
of the tree of knowledge

1502
01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:16,012
of good and evil.

1503
01:03:16,013 --> 01:03:17,729
You can eat of all the other trees.

1504
01:03:17,730 --> 01:03:18,689
- Right.
- But not

1505
01:03:18,690 --> 01:03:19,743
this tree.

1506
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,769
And so they chose to eat
from that tree anyway.

1507
01:03:25,770 --> 01:03:27,970
They broke their one rule

1508
01:03:31,260 --> 01:03:33,333
and look at the result, we're living it.

1509
01:03:35,340 --> 01:03:38,159
So if there's sin from
generation to generation,

1510
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,469
this is proof right here

1511
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:42,569
because Adam and Eve broke their one rule.

1512
01:03:42,570 --> 01:03:43,863
They ate a fruit.

1513
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:48,299
Now we live in sin today.

1514
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:50,249
That was it.
- Mm.

1515
01:03:50,250 --> 01:03:52,439
There was no second chance.

1516
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,213
The world was forever changed.

1517
01:03:56,490 --> 01:03:58,769
Death came into the world.

1518
01:03:58,770 --> 01:04:02,913
The very Earth was marked
because of this change.

1519
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:07,019
So yes, generation to
generation from that,

1520
01:04:07,020 --> 01:04:09,029
that was a direct result.

1521
01:04:09,030 --> 01:04:12,059
That's where evil came from.

1522
01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:15,959
The only power higher is God's power.

1523
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,109
And we absolutely need to be equipped,

1524
01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:21,059
maybe put on the full armor of God.

1525
01:04:21,060 --> 01:04:23,219
- Right.
- To be able to defeat

1526
01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:24,419
the flaming arrows,

1527
01:04:24,420 --> 01:04:25,803
arrows of the evil one.

1528
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:38,999
If sex was my drug, I
would say I relapsed on that.

1529
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,159
I was what you call a solo artist.

1530
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,899
When it was time to hunt,
I liked to hunt alone.

1531
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:44,399
So I would go to the club.

1532
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,199
I always do two shots of tequila,

1533
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,059
two Long Island ice teas.

1534
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:49,492
And then after that, I would
top it off with two Budweisers.

1535
01:04:49,493 --> 01:04:52,949
I would walk around the
club with two Budweisers,

1536
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:54,179
you know, feeling the music,

1537
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:55,859
feeling myself walking around

1538
01:04:55,860 --> 01:04:59,399
and I'm looking for women,

1539
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,232
beautiful woman.

1540
01:05:00,233 --> 01:05:01,079
I'm like, oh, look at her.

1541
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,239
Yeah, she's, do I want
something petite tonight?

1542
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,099
I think I might want
something a little thicc,

1543
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:06,206
where the thicc girls at?

1544
01:05:06,207 --> 01:05:09,359
And I see this girl dancing
with some guy, whatever.

1545
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,690
But she's looking at me

1546
01:05:11,820 --> 01:05:12,869
and I was like, huh.

1547
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:14,249
So I did a Prince move.

1548
01:05:14,250 --> 01:05:15,689
She was trying to find
me in a crowd like, man,

1549
01:05:15,690 --> 01:05:16,522
where'd this guy go?

1550
01:05:16,523 --> 01:05:17,729
Where does handsome guy go?

1551
01:05:17,730 --> 01:05:21,959
And the next thing you know,
I tapped her on the shoulder.

1552
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,039
You know, we started dancing or whatever.

1553
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,769
And then she forgot all about the guy

1554
01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:27,479
that she was just dancing with.

1555
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,309
And I was like all eyes on me.

1556
01:05:29,310 --> 01:05:31,863
So long story short,
that's how I met my wife.

1557
01:05:35,340 --> 01:05:36,231
This is bad.

1558
01:05:38,010 --> 01:05:40,769
But I will say that with
her, it was different.

1559
01:05:40,770 --> 01:05:42,929
I wasn't trying to get in her pants.

1560
01:05:42,930 --> 01:05:45,599
We stayed up all night till six
o'clock in the morning, man,

1561
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:46,859
just talking.

1562
01:05:46,860 --> 01:05:47,692
And while I'm sitting there talking to her

1563
01:05:47,693 --> 01:05:49,173
in her mom's living room,

1564
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,529
the Holy Spirit said, "This is your wife."

1565
01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:55,289
And so that night before
I left her apartment,

1566
01:05:55,290 --> 01:05:56,906
she told me that she loved me

1567
01:05:56,907 --> 01:05:59,369
and I told her that I love her.

1568
01:05:59,370 --> 01:06:01,109
And this is all in just the several hours

1569
01:06:01,110 --> 01:06:02,073
of meeting someone.

1570
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,899
And Travis you
got what, teenagers, don't you?

1571
01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:12,329
Yep, yeah,
Trin turned 13 in March

1572
01:06:12,330 --> 01:06:15,299
and then Trais turned
17 back in September.

1573
01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:17,549
You gotta be kidding, Trais is 17?

1574
01:06:17,550 --> 01:06:19,649
Well, yeah, it's gone by so quick.

1575
01:06:19,650 --> 01:06:21,929
So it's his junior year this year.

1576
01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:23,669
And he'll graduate next year.

1577
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:25,079
When I was 17,

1578
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,120
that's when I joined the
military, at 17 years old.

1579
01:06:28,121 --> 01:06:30,659
I joined the Air Force at 17.

1580
01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:34,859
I had me a salt and pepper
herring bone top coat

1581
01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:36,649
and had my little velour hat,

1582
01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:41,219
my little velour hat with the
brush on the side and all.

1583
01:06:41,220 --> 01:06:43,289
And went down there,
got down there to Texas

1584
01:06:43,290 --> 01:06:44,123
and that

1585
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:49,236
TI grabbed me in my chest said,

1586
01:06:49,237 --> 01:06:50,976
"Boy, where you think you at?"

1587
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,639
You know, "You think you with
your daddy and your mama?

1588
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,659
I'm your daddy now."

1589
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:07,741
I pray for peace and

1590
01:07:07,742 --> 01:07:09,359
I just pray like to stay strong

1591
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,669
'cause I know the devil's
trying to break me down

1592
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:14,069
and like, there's been times
where like I would cry,

1593
01:07:14,070 --> 01:07:16,819
but I know like I just can't
let the devil get to me

1594
01:07:16,820 --> 01:07:17,652
in that type of way.

1595
01:07:17,653 --> 01:07:19,709
So I'll just be praying for like strength

1596
01:07:19,710 --> 01:07:21,569
and not to like let him get to me

1597
01:07:21,570 --> 01:07:23,939
'cause all he's saying is lies.

1598
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:26,309
Drawing is just very fun
for me 'cause I don't know,

1599
01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:29,279
I just feel like God
like made me to do that.

1600
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,169
I like making like a
lot of creative stuff.

1601
01:07:31,170 --> 01:07:34,109
I like making music,
dubstep, art, tons of stuff,

1602
01:07:34,110 --> 01:07:35,746
video games, programming.

1603
01:07:35,747 --> 01:07:37,863
I'm into like a lot of creative things.

1604
01:07:39,210 --> 01:07:40,799
One of the reasons why I think

1605
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:41,806
the demons are targeting us is

1606
01:07:41,807 --> 01:07:43,679
'cause we're meant for a greater purpose

1607
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,119
or God might have a plan for us

1608
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,549
that we aren't necessarily
like fully aware of.

1609
01:07:47,550 --> 01:07:48,869
So they're trying to hinder us,

1610
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:50,279
mess with us and disturb us

1611
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,193
and make us scared and just
kind of like live in fear.

1612
01:07:54,030 --> 01:07:56,491
I think my family needs protection.

1613
01:08:13,830 --> 01:08:15,989
The people need help

1614
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:18,449
and the church is not
really helping people,

1615
01:08:18,450 --> 01:08:20,249
but they draining.

1616
01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:21,509
And the people, you know,

1617
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:23,909
they gimme, gimme, gimme.

1618
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:27,509
Even the Bible says help your brother.

1619
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:28,819
The church is.

1620
01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:32,369
Seem like they lost its power.

1621
01:08:32,370 --> 01:08:35,309
You don't see 'em casting
out demons anymore, you know?

1622
01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:36,179
- Right.
- Coming up

1623
01:08:36,180 --> 01:08:37,589
against that spirit.

1624
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:38,669
I feel like
a lot of churches are

1625
01:08:38,670 --> 01:08:42,659
not really helping out
families the way they should.

1626
01:08:42,660 --> 01:08:43,492
- Right.
- Like you were saying,

1627
01:08:43,493 --> 01:08:45,659
if somebody's struggling
with a bill to pay,

1628
01:08:45,660 --> 01:08:47,313
a life bill or they rent,

1629
01:08:49,020 --> 01:08:51,149
name a church where you can
go to and get help for that.

1630
01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:51,982
Right.

1631
01:08:51,983 --> 01:08:53,819
I don't know any, I don't
know all the churches,

1632
01:08:53,820 --> 01:08:55,319
but I, you don't hear those stories.

1633
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,351
Right, yeah.

1634
01:08:56,352 --> 01:08:57,184
You know what I mean?

1635
01:08:57,185 --> 01:08:59,879
You hear stories of a pastor's anniversary

1636
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,780
and they give extra donation
for the pastor's anniversary.

1637
01:09:04,260 --> 01:09:05,789
To me, I just think they got it twisted

1638
01:09:05,790 --> 01:09:08,110
and they're really not about

1639
01:09:10,170 --> 01:09:12,584
serving a community and serving the Lord

1640
01:09:12,585 --> 01:09:14,999
like they're meant to.

1641
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,289
- Right, yeah.
- To me it's

1642
01:09:16,290 --> 01:09:19,508
like more of taking than giving.

1643
01:09:25,050 --> 01:09:27,100
I feel where I'm from is

1644
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,579
challenging,

1645
01:09:29,580 --> 01:09:30,413
but

1646
01:09:32,580 --> 01:09:36,809
life is what you make
it so I just keep going.

1647
01:09:36,810 --> 01:09:39,149
I didn't want to be a young teenage mom.

1648
01:09:39,150 --> 01:09:42,959
And my mom, she used to
always like say little stuff

1649
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,087
and like she is like, "Tay,"

1650
01:09:45,088 --> 01:09:46,949
she never once judged me

1651
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:50,789
even though she didn't
like me being a lesbian.

1652
01:09:50,790 --> 01:09:52,529
Like, she didn't at all.

1653
01:09:52,530 --> 01:09:54,779
And you know, 'cause I know,

1654
01:09:54,780 --> 01:09:56,309
I know how I was raised

1655
01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:58,169
and I know so it,

1656
01:09:58,170 --> 01:10:01,829
like she didn't judge
me, but she did kind of.

1657
01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:06,149
But it was mainly 'cause of the girl.

1658
01:10:06,150 --> 01:10:07,926
Like, she flat-out told me like,

1659
01:10:07,927 --> 01:10:11,189
"Tay, she not for you, get rid."

1660
01:10:11,190 --> 01:10:12,749
Like she just always says stuff

1661
01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:15,959
and I'm like, "Ma, whatever",
da, da, da, da, da.

1662
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,109
She cheated on me the whole
time we were together.

1663
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:20,549
She was still dealing with men.

1664
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:23,909
Once she got pregnant and
she said she was gonna stop

1665
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:25,229
and, but she didn't.

1666
01:10:25,230 --> 01:10:27,869
I told her multiple times,

1667
01:10:27,870 --> 01:10:29,489
F you, I don't care about you.

1668
01:10:29,490 --> 01:10:30,779
I care about this baby.

1669
01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:32,699
Like, you can do what you
do, I don't care about you.

1670
01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:36,713
I told her that over and over and over.

1671
01:10:36,714 --> 01:10:37,546
I told her that all the time.

1672
01:10:37,547 --> 01:10:40,409
That's why I had to
really go to counseling

1673
01:10:40,410 --> 01:10:43,289
'cause I blame me 'cause
I told her all the time,

1674
01:10:43,290 --> 01:10:45,059
like, "I don't care about you,

1675
01:10:45,060 --> 01:10:46,109
I care about that baby."

1676
01:10:46,110 --> 01:10:47,579
And she knew that.

1677
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:50,909
So she killed that baby to
get back at me, you know?

1678
01:10:50,910 --> 01:10:51,743
So

1679
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:57,040
she suffocated

1680
01:10:58,500 --> 01:10:59,999
a four month old

1681
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:00,833
and

1682
01:11:02,490 --> 01:11:03,663
I guess she,

1683
01:11:06,030 --> 01:11:06,963
you know,

1684
01:11:08,490 --> 01:11:09,929
yeah, she did that

1685
01:11:09,930 --> 01:11:12,783
and a year later,

1686
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,879
yeah, she was in the
closet and she was wrapping

1687
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,579
and wrapping and wrapping
the cord around her neck.

1688
01:11:20,580 --> 01:11:23,429
I guess it ate her up so bad, you know?

1689
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:25,683
Like, she knew what she did, like.

1690
01:11:27,180 --> 01:11:28,833
Yeah and she,

1691
01:11:30,090 --> 01:11:31,739
yeah, she strangled herself.

1692
01:11:31,740 --> 01:11:33,959
And when I was trying to go in there

1693
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,959
to release the cord
from, or just anything,

1694
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,960
it was like a voice and
it was like, "Move."

1695
01:11:42,510 --> 01:11:45,239
And once I heard that,
I'm just like, whoa.

1696
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,748
I backed up, you know?

1697
01:11:47,749 --> 01:11:48,839
I ain't been that way since.

1698
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,929
I've been praying, praying all day.

1699
01:11:51,930 --> 01:11:54,569
I repented for all that

1700
01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:57,446
'cause I had to wake up

1701
01:11:57,447 --> 01:12:01,143
and yeah, I changed my whole thing.

1702
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,559
After that, I had my mom still

1703
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,989
and like my mom, she helped me out a lot

1704
01:12:06,990 --> 01:12:08,099
'cause I was messed up.

1705
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:09,543
I was so messed up.

1706
01:12:20,930 --> 01:12:24,839
I think
that the devil is everywhere.

1707
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:25,983
Evil is everywhere.

1708
01:12:33,090 --> 01:12:34,557
There's demons around us right now.

1709
01:12:34,558 --> 01:12:36,089
You can't see 'em.

1710
01:12:36,090 --> 01:12:37,690
There are also angels around us.

1711
01:12:41,452 --> 01:12:43,000
We're in a spiritual warfare.

1712
01:12:45,390 --> 01:12:48,239
We always been in a spiritual warfare.

1713
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,829
We should be, all of us should be

1714
01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:52,563
preachers, testimony of
what we went through.

1715
01:12:56,730 --> 01:12:59,910
There's a lot of people are
gonna take that number, 666,

1716
01:12:59,911 --> 01:13:01,661
that haven't already.

1717
01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:15,633
We have a choice to make.

1718
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:18,993
You could do this.

1719
01:13:20,670 --> 01:13:22,499
You could do good, bad and evil.

1720
01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:24,359
No one's checked you

1721
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,339
and we got the Holy Spirit on our body.

1722
01:13:26,340 --> 01:13:29,429
Whatever you do, the
Holy Spirit will witness,

1723
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:30,659
whether it's good or bad.

1724
01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:32,489
It's in all of us.

1725
01:13:32,490 --> 01:13:34,199
There ain't no escape.

1726
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,253
Everything you do is
being recorded and filmed.

1727
01:13:40,830 --> 01:13:45,093
Not only He got books,
but the devil got books.

1728
01:13:51,186 --> 01:13:52,853
They want your soul.

1729
01:13:54,191 --> 01:13:55,199
They want you tormented.

1730
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,573
They don't want you living in heaven,

1731
01:13:59,270 --> 01:14:02,519
in a new world, new place God created.

1732
01:14:37,740 --> 01:14:41,403
Do the damned still dream of heaven?

1733
01:14:43,050 --> 01:14:44,369
The problem is,

1734
01:14:44,370 --> 01:14:47,879
some people think they're
just gonna go in the ground

1735
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,249
or they think they're gonna have a party

1736
01:14:50,250 --> 01:14:52,709
in hell with their friends.

1737
01:14:52,710 --> 01:14:55,229
And that's so far off.

1738
01:14:55,230 --> 01:14:56,699
That's a lie.

1739
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:57,929
It's not a party.

1740
01:14:57,930 --> 01:14:59,189
That's why it's hell.

1741
01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:01,799
It's the embodiment of evil.

1742
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,559
It's the burning lake of fire.

1743
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,690
And so even if they didn't
dream of it beforehand,

1744
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:11,189
or think it was a real thing,

1745
01:15:11,190 --> 01:15:14,009
when they get to hell,

1746
01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:16,379
they see that it's real.

1747
01:15:16,380 --> 01:15:18,119
And so I'm certain

1748
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,699
that they long for something better

1749
01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:22,319
because it's such torment.

1750
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,289
And it's a place that I
wouldn't want anybody to go.

1751
01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:26,909
And I think that's why God tells us

1752
01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:28,829
to pray for our enemies.

1753
01:15:28,830 --> 01:15:31,079
Because this is such a horrible thing

1754
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,203
that He doesn't wish
that any should perish,

1755
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,619
but that all should be
called to repentance.

1756
01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:39,329
So if that's God's wishes,

1757
01:15:39,330 --> 01:15:41,249
the one who created hell,

1758
01:15:41,250 --> 01:15:44,009
then we ought to be
wishing that so much harder

1759
01:15:44,010 --> 01:15:46,143
because we're the imperfect sinners.

1760
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,279
I am afraid of God.

1761
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,599
I could say that.

1762
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,029
And I mean, I know the
God of the Old Testament.

1763
01:16:00,030 --> 01:16:02,189
He swallowed people up in the Earth.

1764
01:16:02,190 --> 01:16:03,749
He is a God to be afraid of.

1765
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:04,810
Yeah, He's no joke, yeah.

1766
01:16:04,811 --> 01:16:07,349
Because I think people
wanna minimize the fear of God

1767
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:10,139
as just respect.

1768
01:16:10,140 --> 01:16:11,789
But it's so much more than that.

1769
01:16:11,790 --> 01:16:13,409
I actually fear God

1770
01:16:13,410 --> 01:16:17,549
and I don't need to fear
anyone or anything else.

1771
01:16:17,550 --> 01:16:20,969
So if you had seen me in
my day before I got here,

1772
01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:22,169
you would've seen

1773
01:16:22,170 --> 01:16:24,539
like various points where I was praying,

1774
01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:26,699
like I'm waking up and I'm praying

1775
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:29,309
and I am on the drive here

1776
01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:33,539
and I turn off the sound
in my car and I'm praying.

1777
01:16:33,540 --> 01:16:35,339
And when I'm in here, I'm on the floor

1778
01:16:35,340 --> 01:16:36,272
and I'm praying.

1779
01:16:37,470 --> 01:16:40,589
Because I'm not called
to be a person of fear.

1780
01:16:40,590 --> 01:16:42,179
I'm called to shine the light of God.

1781
01:16:42,180 --> 01:16:43,215
Right.

1782
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,173
I pray every day.

1783
01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:54,539
I wake up and say a prayer,

1784
01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:55,859
go to sleep saying a prayer.

1785
01:16:55,860 --> 01:16:58,049
I say a prayer all during the day.

1786
01:16:58,050 --> 01:17:00,089
I say a prayer on my way
to work, while I'm at work.

1787
01:17:00,090 --> 01:17:01,229
You know what I'm saying?

1788
01:17:01,230 --> 01:17:02,733
To let Him know I'm there.

1789
01:17:04,350 --> 01:17:06,899
But with me, if I see it

1790
01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:09,779
and I know it ain't natural
or nothing from up above,

1791
01:17:09,780 --> 01:17:11,639
oh honey, look.
- Go on.

1792
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,340
You can have it, I'm outta here.

1793
01:17:15,570 --> 01:17:17,970
Our story is
a lot of people's story.

1794
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,403
They just don't wanna talk about it.

1795
01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:34,169
As a parent, the only
thing I worry about is

1796
01:17:34,170 --> 01:17:37,439
just making sure they
never get away from God.

1797
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:40,229
I don't care about them
growing up to be successful,

1798
01:17:40,230 --> 01:17:42,869
to get a good career and all that.

1799
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:45,029
If you instill that word in your kids,

1800
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:46,199
God is gonna provide to them,

1801
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:47,189
they're gonna have good careers.

1802
01:17:47,190 --> 01:17:50,040
All those things that's gonna
come off of that one thing.

1803
01:17:50,910 --> 01:17:52,949
So for me as a parent,

1804
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:54,089
that's always been my job.

1805
01:17:54,090 --> 01:17:55,319
I taught my son Trais how to pray

1806
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,430
when he was only 17 months

1807
01:17:58,500 --> 01:18:02,069
because I knew what he was
gonna be facing in this world.

1808
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:03,449
I knew what dark forces he was

1809
01:18:03,450 --> 01:18:05,909
gonna be coming up against this world.

1810
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:09,749
And I knew if it ever came a
time where they was gonna be,

1811
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:11,189
have to confront demons,

1812
01:18:11,190 --> 01:18:13,219
I wanted to make sure
they was prepared, man,

1813
01:18:13,220 --> 01:18:15,329
in how to wield the word of God

1814
01:18:15,330 --> 01:18:16,780
and how to use it as a sword.

1815
01:18:17,730 --> 01:18:18,569
'Cause when you experience

1816
01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:21,899
everything that I've
experienced with my sisters,

1817
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:25,173
my dad, my brother Joey, myself,

1818
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,860
can't nobody tell me nothing, man.

1819
01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:31,390
Somebody need help

1820
01:18:33,690 --> 01:18:34,949
spiritually.

1821
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:37,023
Somebody out there needs help.

1822
01:18:39,780 --> 01:18:41,650
And the crazy part about it is

1823
01:18:42,780 --> 01:18:45,479
they will not even ask

1824
01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:47,163
for help theirself.

1825
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:49,529
Why?

1826
01:18:49,530 --> 01:18:50,433
Too ashamed,

1827
01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:52,563
too embarrassed,

1828
01:18:54,330 --> 01:18:55,919
whatever.

1829
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,370
But I'm here to let you know,

1830
01:18:59,490 --> 01:19:01,529
kick all that out the window.

1831
01:19:01,530 --> 01:19:03,299
God is not on that.

1832
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:04,533
That's not God's way.

1833
01:19:11,850 --> 01:19:12,683
Satan,

1834
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,473
get thee behind me.

1835
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,549
You're not welcome here

1836
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:21,483
and you know that.

1837
01:19:34,890 --> 01:19:36,740
My Lord God, we thank You.

1838
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:41,020
My Lord God, I thank You for
all that You have done for us.

1839
01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:44,609
My Lord God, I thank You
for the power of laughter

1840
01:19:44,610 --> 01:19:47,159
and the gifts You have given us, Father.

1841
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,649
Father God, we thank You God
for bringing us together,

1842
01:19:49,650 --> 01:19:52,019
all the craziness we experience, Father,

1843
01:19:52,020 --> 01:19:53,609
I know that You're with us.

1844
01:19:53,610 --> 01:19:55,859
And my Lord God, I give You all the glory

1845
01:19:55,860 --> 01:19:58,499
and the honor and the praise, my Lord.

1846
01:19:58,500 --> 01:20:00,100
We lift Your name above our name

1847
01:20:01,020 --> 01:20:04,199
because Lord, we nothing without You.

1848
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:05,909
I'm glad that You live in
each and every one of us,

1849
01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:07,319
Father God.

1850
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,929
And then I pray that we activate You

1851
01:20:09,930 --> 01:20:11,999
because we know for such a time as this,

1852
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,600
Father God, You calling us

1853
01:20:14,491 --> 01:20:16,739
and that we're here, Father God,

1854
01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:18,213
in Jesus' holy name.

1855
01:20:52,650 --> 01:20:55,709
I am that I am, your Lord thy God.

1856
01:20:55,710 --> 01:20:57,149
There is none before me.

1857
01:20:57,150 --> 01:20:58,655
There is none after me.

1858
01:21:03,003 --> 01:21:06,834
I am all power, all glory, I am that I am.

1859
01:21:06,835 --> 01:21:07,918
Amen.

1860
01:21:09,948 --> 01:21:11,158
In Jesus' name.

1861
01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:12,242
Amen.

1862
01:21:13,431 --> 01:21:17,767
Hallelujah,
hallelujah, hallelujah.

1863
01:21:17,768 --> 01:21:18,848
Amen.

1864
01:21:19,682 --> 01:21:21,358
Through you, brother,

1865
01:21:21,359 --> 01:21:23,026
speaking in tongues.

1866
01:21:27,903 --> 01:21:41,158
♪ Gimme that old time religion ♪

1867
01:21:41,159 --> 01:21:45,090
♪ Lord, it's good enough for me ♪

1868
01:21:45,091 --> 01:21:56,212
♪ Gimme that old time religion ♪

1869
01:21:56,213 --> 01:22:00,050
♪ Lord, it's good enough for me ♪

1870
01:22:00,051 --> 01:22:11,186
♪ It was good for our mothers ♪

1871
01:22:11,187 --> 01:22:14,259
♪ It's good enough for me ♪

1872
01:22:14,260 --> 01:22:25,076
♪ Gimme that old time religion ♪

1873
01:22:25,077 --> 01:22:28,624
♪ Lord, it's good enough for me ♪

1874
01:22:28,625 --> 01:22:39,551
♪ It was good for our fathers ♪

1875
01:22:39,552 --> 01:22:42,509
♪ It's good enough for me ♪

1876
01:22:42,510 --> 01:22:53,102
♪ Gimme that old time religion ♪

1877
01:22:53,103 --> 01:22:56,632
♪ Lord, it's good enough for me ♪

1878
01:22:56,633 --> 01:23:07,493
♪ It was good for Paul and Silas ♪

1879
01:23:07,494 --> 01:23:10,368
♪ It's good enough for me ♪

1880
01:23:10,369 --> 01:23:21,007
♪ Gimme that old time religion ♪

1881
01:23:21,008 --> 01:23:24,467
♪ Lord, it's good enough for me ♪

1882
01:23:24,468 --> 01:23:34,939
♪ It will take you home to glory ♪

1883
01:23:34,940 --> 01:23:37,935
♪ It's good enough for me ♪

1884
01:23:37,936 --> 01:23:48,366
♪ Gimme that old time religion ♪

1885
01:23:48,367 --> 01:23:51,742
♪ Lord, it's good enough for me ♪

1886
01:23:51,743 --> 01:24:02,817
♪ Gimme that old time religion ♪